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What are your thoughts on the sexist references in the bible?

As a feminist, i find them quite offencive.
- Women aren't allowed to be priests.
- "1Cor.14:34-35 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church."
- Genesis 19:8 Tells of a man named Lot who offers his daughters to a crowd of would be Angel rapers. Later, Lot impregnates his own daughters after God kills his wife for simply looking back at the remains of her city.
-Genesis 38:16-24 Tells a very interesting story of a man named Judah whom lived with his widowed daughter in law. His daughter in law was grieving and wearing the veils of mourning which Judah (a rather stupid man) mistook for the clothing of a prostitute. He ended up impregnating his daughter in law and she left the city. On a later tarikh Judah sees the young woman again and demanded she be burned for being a prostitute (I like how only the woman is punished when THEY BOTH engaged in the sexual act). It wasn’t until Judah recognized the woman as his daughter in law and she was with his child, that he decided not to kill her. Basically, Judah can commit incest, use a prostitute (in his mistaken perception), and impregnate a MUCH younger woman, yet he thinks she is the one deserving of death.
-Deuteronomy 22:23-24 is one of the most cruel and sexist passages of the Torah. It says that women who are raped and fail to “cry out loud” in a populated area are most likely enjoying the attack should be killed.

there are loads lebih on this site- link this is partly the reason i don't go to church anymore. I have nothing against christians as people, but really do have issues with the book they worship.
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oh yeah, and here's my favourite, it's just so sweet and full of equality- "Leviticus 12:1-8 Explains that a woman has to be purified after giving birth because she is “unclean”. It goes on to say that birthing a male is cleaner then birthing a female, hence a mother must purify TWICE as long when having a daughter. This is BLATANT sexism from the point of birth. A woman is dirty simply for being a woman; this is obviously very biased and chauvinistic."
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and then there's another one, which again, is just lovely to hear- "Numbers 31: 14-18 Moses tells his men to kill all the males, non-virginal women, elderly and children of the Midianite tribe. Of course, the virgin women are kept for raping. If anda read later down in the scripture God states that the Jews can not even marry a Midianite woman (with exception to Moses). Hence these women who were captured were repeatedly raped and impregnated and they weren’t even allowed a marital status in which to protect them."
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oh and just one lebih i'm sure isn't completly pyschopathic, cult-like and insane: "Genesis 3:16 Says that all women must suffer great pains during child birth due to Eve eating the Buah of knowledge. (As if it is somehow just that humans should pay for their ancestor’s sins nor is a woman dying in labor some how befitting of a crime she did not commit.) The verse finishes of sejak saying a husband shall “rule” over his woman, stripping us off all power in between the sexes." yay. O.O
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^That one is nasty.
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harold said:
They're history of a sexist time, or, lebih accurately, of several different periods when the idea of gender equality didn't exist.
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Then how come there still in the bible?
pandawinx posted hampir setahun yang lalu
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Why wouldn't history be in the Bible?
harold posted hampir setahun yang lalu
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Like I berkata - the Bible was never meant to be "updated."
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-sapherequeen- said:
In my strong opinion, I do not believe that God promotes nor supports sexism, homophobia, racism (this is a new one, according to a few people), any kind of hatred towards any person. God is a loving being, and wishes to guide us with love. This is what Jesus Christ, the son of God, told us. As of now, I will trust Jesus on this one. :)

It also depends on where some of the verses are found. If in the Old Testament....perhaps I'm biting the bullet, but I believe that parts of the Old Testament are misinterpretations of God's word.
And that's all I'm going to state.
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Like all veiws i respect yours, true people do sunting the bible to promote there veiws, and it has been past down through so many different people,, but then, we come back, full-circle, to the fact that god is meant to be a all knowing, all seeing, superior being, who can do just about anyrthing...so yeah, i suppose i have nothing to add to that.
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sapherqueen, I appreciate anda standing for your beliefs. I wonder, have anda taken time to read some of the passage mentioned above. While a couple befuddle my mind. The rest have a different meaning in their original context.
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dreamfields said:
I have not visted the web site anda list. I don't know which translation was used. I think some of thier interpretations may be slightly off. A few seem to be out of context. I have reviewed, and dikomen on the verses anda listed. I used the New International Version translation.
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1. 1 Cor. chapter 14 is talking about order in the service. In that culture the men sat on one side of the building and the women on the other. Paul tells the women to wait till they get utama to ask their husbands if they have a question, This is because some were calling across to their husband with a question. This was disruptive to the service.
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Forgot the saat part of 1st point. If anda look at 1 Cor. chapter 11, Paul basically gives a dress code that makes it culturally acceptable for men and women to pray atau speak as part of the service.
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Sorry, my copy & paste missed Lot and his daughters. In that culture it was important to carry on the family line and for women to be able to bare children. According to scripture, the daughters conspired to keep the family line going. One at a time they got their father drunk to the point of him passing out. It was then that they had sex with him and became pregnant. Lot was not aware of what was happening.
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youknowit010 said:
That's how it was back then.

anda should use it to mentally document the progress women have made throughout the ages.
Instead of being bothered sejak the past, we can focus on how it is now and how the future might be.
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It's hard to let go off the past when A) all these passages are still in the bible to promote these veiws, B) people still take them seriously and follow them and C) at the end of the day, god is meant to be a all knowing, superior being he doesn't just change his oppinion, and least that's what i've been told.
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So anda don't like god's opinion? How would changing the bible change His opinion if anda say His opinion doesn't change?
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tabithasb13 said:
It really pisses me off. -_- I think women should have all the rights that men do. I'm a christian, but I disagree with a lot of things that christians believe. Some christians believe you'll go to hell for being gay/lesbian, but I don't think god would put anda in hell because of your sexuality, and if he would, then that's just wrong. It sickens me to know that parents are raising their kids to be homophobes. I mean, no child is born a homophobe. I blame the parents.

Sorry, I had to get that out.
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i agree, i grew up in a chrstian town, was raised christian, christian friends, a christian boyfriend, but i didn't always follow what i was raised to be...
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caramelmilk said:
Let's just say that in my opinion the ring isn't the only thing that should be thrown into the Fires of Mount Doom.
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And I no longer think that my answer may get the most....responses. I'm Christian, but I respect your opinion. xD
-sapherequeen- posted hampir setahun yang lalu
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Thanks :) I respect yours too.
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That's a good name! :D Could be a moto of mine^^
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bri-marie said:
I think it's a reflection of a time when women didn't have rights, and the belief that, as all women are daughters of Eve, they all carry the sin she created.

The bible isn't practiced sejak the words today, even sejak hard-core religious folk. Adulterers aren't put to death, people get divorced, eat shellfish, and eat and touch pork. People judge, and have pride (and all of the seven deadly sins). Women have rights now. Whether atau not the bible says that at that time it was okay for women to be beneath men isn't going to change now.
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Darkshine said:
I find it pretty sexist myself, but the Bible was written a long time ago, when sexism was acceptable. Actually, there was no sexism as a term, because it was 'normal' beck then. It still is sexist, but it really can't be considered really offensive now, in the modern ages, since that was something usual in that time.
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GeekGirl said:
I hate them so much! Go feminist!!!!!!!!!!!!
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