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okay people, i have another,question for ya :D

^ ^ do anda believe in a hell where ppl burn forever in unquenchable flames, if so, what do anda have to do to get there? :))

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okay, here's my POV im telling anda from the start (idk) that's why im asking this quesiong :P
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Not to attack anda but I had to say this. I think it's hilarious how anda ask about hell with so many smiley faces XD ^^
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misanthrope86 said:
No, I do not believe in a firey hell.

I think the problem with dividing souls into good and bad piles is that even the souls that the majority would label as "bad" and destined for "hell" can be perceived as "good" souls sejak others. Even with Hitler, there are people who believe he was a great man. If the system for dividing bad from good souls is influenced sejak the Neo-Nazi agenda, then Hitler would be in heaven. Should George W belukar, bush be headed to heaven, even thought he denied millions their human rights? George says "yup!" because he and God are supposedly buddies, but those he stood on probably think he could just as easily be headed in the other direction. So if there is some sort of sorting system that divides good and bad souls, sending the bad to hell, then that sorting is biased in some way and billions of souls would be getting a raw deal.

I have no idea if there is any form of life after death. But dividing an afterlife into heaven and hell seems like an impossibility to me. Maybe our souls get recycled atau they alih through to another existence. I think that, with very, very few exceptions, it isn't possible to decide who deserves an eternity of punishment.
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It is possible to decide, I guess. Neither going to hell will be decided sejak only undian of people , nor sejak the good relationship with god. It will be decided sejak the number of good deeds and bad deeds atau sins. He will get his punishment first for his sins in hell and then will be rewarded for his good deeds in heaven. Well, anda don't believe in afterlife. So, I am not forcing anda to believe. That was just my opinion.
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:) LOL
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Welcome! :D
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bri-marie said:
No.

I do believe that there is a place where people are punished after they die, but I don't think it's some "Fiery Pit of Doom!" type of thing. I think it's just a place where you're soul cannot rest, nor be "happy".

And I believe anda have to be truly disgusting to go there. Think Hitler, and Stalin, and Dahmer type people.
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:)) LOL ya Hitler, he was gross, oh and do anda know Jim Jones? anda should look him up, he was weird, so, Bri Marie im trying to understand what your saying, are anda saying that when we die and are not good we become gohsts and roam the earth for all eternity type thing? if so...i wanna be a polergeist ;)
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lmao!
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Roxas1314 said:
This picture describes how I feel about a place where people I knew may atau may not be...I just can't imagine anyone I know going to a place like that for *eternity.*
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 This picture describes how I feel about a place where people I knew may atau may not be...I just can't imagine anyone I know going to a place like that for *eternity.*
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im going to have to disagree with anda on that one Roxas, simply because it's a little harsh, yes, that's basically it, (void of empathy, an asylum for psycopaths) eternity is a long time an i guess that's sort of unfair, but you, know, you've never been there, andperhaps anda do end up there, im sure your not void of empathy and a phsycopath, idk, i don't "think" that it's right to judge the place(heaven) as i said, its a thought, anyway....i understand how anda came to your conclusion and yes, i do often wonder how happiness is possible in heaven where there are millions of condemned loved ones :\
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however...all of us are created differently, and whilst this may be true for me, im sure there are some mean reallysouless people out there O______O
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Roxas1314, I agree completely.
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pandawinx said:
Hmm....Well, personally, I like to think that if there IS a God, he isn't a vengeful one.
God is berkata to be a loving entity who only supplies hope for people, not eternal misery, so it would be quite hypocritical if he did send people to hell.
Someone who lets us burn for eternity?
That doesn't sound like a loving spirit who gave us light.

If anda look back through history, you'll find that 'hell' was often used (and ocassionally still is) to scare minors into behaving. Pictures in churches had children being prodded with tridents and bathing in acid. It was a way of scaring children straight.
Some historians reckon that hell was fabricated/exaggerated for that very purpose.

I assume not.
But how can anyone know for sure?
And if there is a hell, and anda have to follow very specific rules to avoid it...Then we're all pretty much fucked. XD
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*were not necessarily all fucked* lo just alot of us, pand, i probably agree with anda lebih than anyone previously right now! and yes anda have made me remember the fact than in older times, people "did" use fear toinstill proper behaviour among not just children but intire scores of the population!
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I have no idea. My problem wasn't so much with the God who orders/does these thing, but with Christians who read that and still call God loving/mercifull/good. That I don't understand.
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:\ it's complicated sapp, i used to be a christian, plus, that doesn't disclude the fact that there might be a hell, maybe not even a christian hell perhaps :P
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Chaann94 said:
I actually believe in hell, but not with api, kebakaran and stuff.

I think it's a place where you're confronted with your wrongdoings for the rest of... well... the time you're there I guess XD.
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lol, ineresting
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*interesting*
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that's what i think Chaan94 I think it's a seperation from God for eternity, I dont think its pleasent but idk if it's a fire.
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oh okay
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retrolove83 said:
No I don't. I believe Earth is hell and people who don't get to Heaven are doomed to a life here, hell on Earth.
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lol! that's cool too...so...you mean like gohsts right/ ^ ^
coriann posted hampir setahun yang lalu
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So earth is hell...I feel depressed :P
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pandawix, it's so so true! D':
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DarkCEpitome said:
I do believe that there is some type of Hell atau eternal damnation, atau a an eternal place of punishment for those who committed atrocious acts throughout their lives.

But I disagree with the typical Christian atau religious individual as to who atau what kind of "sinners" are sent there after death...

For example, I don't believe that Atheists atau Agnostics always go to Hell for their religious beliefs. I believe that if Mother Theresa were an Atheist (however inconceivable an idea atau concept may be, just try to work with me here xD), atau Abraham lincoln was an Agnostic...their compassion and loving, considerate thoughts and contributions they brought forth to our society and our world would not be seen nor considered lightly sejak God, and would not be sent to Hell for this. I believe it has lebih to do with one's actions rather than one's beliefs.

To me, whether Atheists atau Agnostics are sent to Hell are not is entirely circumstantial. It really depends on the person =/

I also have unusual papar for religious people when it comes to homosexuals, promiscuous folk and other groups of peoples atau different concepts and ideas generally.
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Same here.
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okay Darky, one soalan for anda though, do anda think that that level of good can be produced be an atheist/agnostic? i mean we unchristians (i say we but i don't know as yet) tend to live for wordly pleasure and though we have good intentions at hati, tengah-tengah just as christians do, can an atheist/agnostic be driven to such riteousness? O.O although i know other people of different religious sects who also made a difference in this world but they were all *religious* in some way atau another and....can u please share with me your veiws on promiscuous Slash lesbian/gay im interested :P personally Darky i believe even if the Christian God was real he would be able to see christs Cinta in the people that choose to believe other things as well, i mean come on, it's not that obvious that he's real is it? everyone has doubts, for me wrong is hurting other people/damaging other people outside of that person's will, physically atau emotionally, i believe in peace, and that every person has the right to Cinta and acceptance, outside of that, i don't see the difference between right and wrong, it's sad i know :( atau maybe it's not so sad....whatever im confused X_______X
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oh, and the gay and lesbian thing, i think it'smore social than biological but that could just be my opinion, again im not bashing on gays, simply because...well im not straght :P
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livetobefree said:
Well I'm Christian so in a way yes I do, but I am only certain that it is a seperation from God. I'm not sure if it's really a burning painful place but I don't want to ever find out and I'm praying I never do.
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lol, that's just like what Chan94 berkata :) lol, anda seem like a sweet girl i don't think anda will ^ ^ <3
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haha thanks coriann! If God be merciful :)
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^ ^ it was worth a try
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dreamfields said:
As a Christian I believe there is a Hell. God alone is capable of deciding who goes there atau to Heaven.
To summarize the Bible, God created Mankind and all creation perfect. Man rebelled and sin entered the world and everything changed. God has worked to bring us all into relationship with him. First it was through faith that God would forgive them. Ultimately it was all in preparation for God himself to take our punishment and die on the cross. Jesus went to hell for a time. But he was ressurected to tunjuk he had overcome sin. If God has done so much to pay our debt, then how can anyone argue that he alone sets the rules and judges.
It is interesting that the person in the Bible who spoke most often about Hell was Jesus. anda can all believe as anda want, but my beliefs tells me that we will all stand before Christ one day. We will give an account for our lives and what we did with what God offered us.
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"then how can anyone argue that he alone sets the rules and judges." well that's easy dreamfields, they simply have to believe something else, what about muslims and idk Hindus, atheists, i believe any loving god will send them to heaven, in fact even when i was a christian i believed that christs Cinta can exist in any religion, atau belief (atheist/agnostic) plus thanks for anda opinion on the subject :) it was very insitful as well
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anda have to remember that Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except sejak me." Jesus claimed to be the only way. He was either right atau wrong. I believe what he taught.
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