jawab soalan ini

Debat Soalan

Do anda believe that men can be feminists?

I've always thought about this question. I even asked my brother, but I don't think I got an actual answer. He said, and I quote, "Is that a gay innuendo?" but that was a joke. He also said, "That'd be very ironic." but he never berkata 'Yes' atau 'No'. I personally think they can indeed but feminists. It is after all, good for men to respect women's rights. Even better if they know sexism is terrible. Oh! And do anda think it's okay for a mother to breastfeed her child in public? I think it's okay, as long no pervert gets voyeuristic pleasure from it. >.<
*
Your brother sounds young, and so for this I can forgive his statement. But don't let him grow up thinking that way. Educate him.
Cinders posted hampir setahun yang lalu
 TomboyYaoiFan56 posted hampir setahun yang lalu
next question »

Debat Jawapan

Cinders said:
I apologize for my reaction to this, but I find this soalan especially frustrating.

Well, let's see, I don't know. Can white people be against racism? Can straight people support gay rights? No, I mean, really, CAN they? Because everyone knows that the minorities just want to prove they are better than white people, and gays want to take marriage away from straight people, so why should straight whites support these endeavors at all? God knows, equal rights for minorities and the LGBT community is NEVER good for the straight white people in power, it never benefits the economy, it never benefits society, and it never leads to happier lives for anyone, LEAST of all the straight white people, so why should they care?

If the above paragraph sounded ridiculous, it's because it is, but replace "minorities and the LGBT" with "women" and "straight whites" with "men," and anda see how people talk about feminism and how ridiculous it is. Why is it that out of all the battles for equality, it's feminism that gets treated like it's different, like it's extremist, and like it's bad for society? And like it's not good for men, too?

Feminism fights for the rights of men all the time, argues to take away the "feminization" of careers like nursing and elementary school teaching to allow lebih males to sertai the profession without fear of being seen as unmasculine, gay atau a pedophile! (And yes, I have had a guy say to me, "I thought about teaching elementary but I didn't want people to think I was a pedophile because I like being around kids.")

THAT is the feminist battle as much as battling rape culture, work place discrimination, and the way we talk about women in power in the media (read: we talk about how they look, not what they say, unlike how we talk about powerful men).

So my soalan to anda is, what kind of man WOULDN'T be a feminist? What kind of white person WOULDN'T be in support of equal rights for minorities?

That's the soalan anda SHOULD be asking.
select as best answer
posted hampir setahun yang lalu 
*
O_O ... I Cinta you.
TomboyYaoiFan56 posted hampir setahun yang lalu
blackpanther666 said:
I honestly don't know. I don't see why not, on one hand, because if a man advocates for women's rights, and embraces feminism, I think that should allow them to coin that term for themselves. On the other hand, however, I don't know if they would actually be called a feminist, atau not, sejak women feminists... I think this is a difficult topic to decide about. So, I'm going to say that it may depend on how feminists would view them and how they would view themselves. I would personally call them a feminist, though.
select as best answer
posted hampir setahun yang lalu 
*
Why the freak wouldn't a man who believes in equality be called a feminist sejak women? And why does THEIR point of view matter anyway to how he chooses to identify himself? If a gay man comes out of the closet, many family members say, "Oh, but you're not REALLY gay, right?" That doesn't change the fact of what he is. If anda are a white person who believes in equal rights for minorities, does that not count until it's "approved" sejak someone who is a minority? Absolutely not.
Cinders posted hampir setahun yang lalu
*
I already berkata that I don't know... That's just what I think... I like to take into consideration what other people think, too... Even if it isn't necessary. Yes, I do believe that a male should be called a feminist, but I don't know that they will be readily embraced sejak women feminists... Sure, they may do, but what do I know, I'm not a feminist and I don't anyone that is, I'm just giving my opinion on the matter. Anyway, at the end of the day, it matters what others think, because not all people are kindly... Maybe some of the feminists will despise a man for it, maybe they'll think he's great... I truly have no idea.
blackpanther666 posted hampir setahun yang lalu
*
Yeah, I know, that was an exaggeration, but that's because they must view it as a conundrum. I don't know why some people view it like that... It's really beyond me. I find it pretty simple, really, but then again, some people really are imbeciles. So, yes, I can see your frustrations.
blackpanther666 posted hampir setahun yang lalu
Dragonclaws said:
Some female feminists see "feminist" as just a word for people who believe women should have equal rights to men, and they will allow men to use the word. Others will insist that feminism is a movement of women, for women, and do not think men should use their labels and run with it, seeing that as something like white people taking over the movements of racial minorities, leaving the actual people struggling voiceless and dependent on people who could never understand the issues well enough. They do accept male support and are often grateful for it but will insist on men using the label "pro-feminist".

I personally am with Cinders, but I think it's important to recognize how different people expect different things, and I am always prepared to alter my dialog to be respectful to the people to whom I am speaking.
select as best answer
posted hampir setahun yang lalu 
*
While I understand and agree with the idea that people shouldn't speak for any group of people without first allowing them to speak for themselves, I see that as being true of all contexts, even within the feminist battle. For example, Femen, a radical group in Europe, did a topless protest for Muslim women whom they saw as "oppressed." Muslim women around the world responded in droves, proudly wearing their hijab and saying things like, "You don't speak for me," and "There is lebih than one way to be free." HOWEVER, it's a necessity that the majority be a part of minority movements. The ONLY reason women and minorities have the vote is because WHITE MEN voted that they should. Which, yes, one could argue is stupid in the first place that the majority always has to decide the rights of minorities (or in the case of women, half the population decides for the other half), one cannot forget the fact that these movements were made all the lebih possible sejak white male support. I equate female feminists who do not allow men to adopt the tajuk atau sertai their movement to the Black Panthers and other extremists groups who did the same thing with whites. Men are not the enemy, and must be apart of the movement, especially if we are about equality, especially if we are about seeing the person and not letting gender atau skin color alone determine whether we believe they are "with us" atau "against us." Their actions and beliefs should do that. So yes, before anda try and speak for someone else, listen to them first. And when anda do speak for them, add your voice TO theirs - don't talk over them.
Cinders posted hampir setahun yang lalu
prophet69 said:
There are all different types of feminists. There's a lot of sociological terms(first wave, third wave, ethno-feminism, etc.)
A minority of feminists see women as being superior to men, because men can't reproduce and are lebih likely to commit crimes. This is the lebih extreme kind, which most men find objectionable.
Most women are equal opportunity feminists. They believe women should have the same opportunities as men in the workplace, equal pay and formal equality. This type of feminism is something most men support anyway.
Personally, I see feminism as a sub-area of anthroposophy (love of people) ingeneral. It's not that women need to be treated better sejak men, it's that everybody needs to be treated better sejak each other. Women should beable to have careers outside the utama without stigmatisation, but men should be able to act as carers within the utama without stigmatisation too.
Feminism is a good thing when it's about creating opportunities for people who don't have them, and improving relationships and lives. However, if anda believe in this, then anda should believe in the same things for everybody, not just women. When feminism is used as a tool of aggression, then it becomes a negative thing that shouldn't be supported sejak anybody.
I guess in conclusion, it's great to be a feminist as a man, because it shows that feminism is not an exclusive club for women who hate men, as it's sometimes inaccurately portrayed. However, it's better if anda complement your feminism sejak supporting equal opportunities for everyone, not just women.
select as best answer
posted hampir setahun yang lalu 
monkeyrockla said:
Honestly, I suppose. I dont see why a man can support the female sex.
select as best answer
posted hampir setahun yang lalu 
legend_of_roxas said:
I definitely think that men can be feminists. I'm sure there are a lot of guys that think that women should be equal to them and I'm also sure that they are willing to fight for them as well, even though those guys don't really benefit, I'm sure they're just happy to just help.
select as best answer
posted hampir setahun yang lalu 
para-scence said:
Yes. They just have to believe both genders should be equal.
select as best answer
posted hampir setahun yang lalu 
next question »