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Exactly why is it considered rude to EXPECT tips from (paying) customers?

Also there is nothing wrong with the practice of tipping ITSELF, correct?
 Mike88Al27 posted hampir setahun yang lalu
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ShadowFan100 said:
Because that’s how it goes in America. In my country, we shove our cultural norms down your throat, whether anda like them atau not. Oh, if anda dare not participate in any of that, then fuck you. You’re an evil, cold-hatred monster.

Edit: So, I did some rethinking about my original answer....

Admittedly, I hate how I’m forced to tip others simply because it’s the norm. HOWEVER, I do believe the tip anda get should depend on how well you’ve done your job. I usually tip maybe.... $2 at best. Might give them $5, if I’ve had really great service. But I just hate the idea of tipping just because I “have to”. It’s annoying AF.
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posted hampir setahun yang lalu 
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Eh I think thats a lot of countries with their cultural norms
Riku114 posted hampir setahun yang lalu
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I know, but it just seems like America is really hardcore about their culture. It’s honestly really annoying, but I do agree that any country could be guilty of doing this.
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Zeppie said:
Idk tbh. Tipping isn't a thing in my country.
If I ever went to America I wouldn't even know how to tip lol. It's just a foreign concept to me.
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posted hampir setahun yang lalu 
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^ That’s one of the things about my country I hate. People get offended when anda don’t participate in their stupid cultural norms. I mean, sure, if I’ll tip if I get good service. But tipping just for the sake of it? Nope, fuck that.
ShadowFan100 posted hampir setahun yang lalu
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But yeah its as Zanhar berkata pretty much. Waiters are able to be paid BELOW minimum wage due to tips and its kinda fucked up
Riku114 posted hampir setahun yang lalu
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$4 an hour??? Holy shit that's highly illegal here aye, wow... for sure I will tip if I travel there, it sounds a bit of a bother to calculate every time anda go eat? But makes sense if the servers are being paid so low, that's awful. Thanks for the info guys
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twinklestar11 said:
never heard of it
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kingcesar67 said:
Because in certain places, customers don't have to give tips and your expecting them to give up money they worked for.... maybe?
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BB2010 said:
If you're working hard at a restaurant atau just working hard in general then yeah, expecting a tip shouldn't be considered rude.

The only time I ever considered it rude was when me and my sister (10 and 12 at the time) went to a restaurant and the waitress gave us attitude for not giving her a tip when that was all the money we had. If you're gonna get mad at kids for not giving anda money then you're a real dick
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BlueDopamine said:
link and link
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anaswill said:
The US is the only place I can think of that does tipping (though there may be other places), and imo there is something very wrong with the tipping process - that is that employer isn’t paying the employee enough money so that they must rely on the customer. In Eropah it’s common that they just get higher paychecks so that they don’t need tips. America’s system is pretty broken if anda ask me. But I still tip of course, because until it’s fixed that’s what the employee needs.

As to your first question, (considering you’re in America) it’s probably because the customer likes to think they have the power and that it’s their generosity that is giving the tip, despite it being common practice. Also for some reason it’s just considered rude to talk about taking someone’s money. Basically I think since the customers doesn’t technically have to pay the tip, they want anda to act grateful rather than expectant. Honestly I don’t really blame the customer atau the employee in this situation. It’s just that tipping is so weird.
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zanhar1 said:
Because capitalism???

Honestly I think it's annoying that some places won't let people accept them. If anda did a good job, good enough to earn a tip, then anda should be able to take it.
Like I worked at a place where I arranged balloon bouquets; it's time consuming and tedious because some people get ridiculously specific. I was told that I did a good job and that they really liked how I did it. I was offered tip money but, per company policy, had to decline. It was annoying as fuck because I clearly did something right, I clearly went above and beyond and I wish that I could have gotten the reward based on good merit.

In some work places tips are literally a person's livelihood; the company pays under minimum wage claiming that tip money makes up for it. Which imo is bullshit because there will be days where no one tips and that can crush a person financially. For that reason alone people shouldn't consider it rude to expect and accept tips. Tbh I think they should do away with tipping and give staff at least minimum wage and then if people want to tip still, they can. But there's less pressure on the customer and the employee has some lebih stability.
But this is just my take, I've never worked a job where tipping was essential like that so I could be wrong.

Now I can see it as rude to expect tips if a person is only doing the bare minimum atau a below average job; in which case they are basically expecting something for nothing. But I feel like most people don't do this.
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Honestly,not allowing a worker to accept tips is just terrible
SilentForce posted hampir setahun yang lalu
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^ !!! If anda do a good job, anda should be able to take the reward for having done it.
zanhar1 posted hampir setahun yang lalu
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^ Agreed
ShadowFan100 posted hampir setahun yang lalu
ArcticWolf said:
It's not.

In a lot of cases (such as with servers), workers make less than minimum wage and tips are the only way they have enough money to pay for food, rent, etc., like zanhar1 said. The amount anda tip depends on how well anda think they did their job.

About a bulan lalu I went out to eat and ordered a simple burger keju, cheeseburger and fries. I felt that getting change back was unnecessary so I let the server keep the extra 5-10 bucks on bahagian, atas of the tip and she was so grateful even over such a small amount of money.

It's not rude to expect tips. It's rude to not tip.
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posted hampir setahun yang lalu 
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I agree with that last statement so much.
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TheLefteris24 said:
We tip in my Country as well though it is mostly a gesture of gratefulness from the customer side for a job well done. It's not like it's being seen like a tradition, a custom atau anything of the sort. I haven't really seen any Employer actually waiting to get tipped so far honestly. That being said, it is clear that there are those who hope as they try to provide anda the best possible service. I do not see anything rude in that. Especially if anda go out of your way to place greater care for a person atau the paycheck just isn't enough for the amount of work anda have done. NOT tipping in this case is what seems pretty rude to me XD It's always good menunjukkan appreciation in every aspect of our lives so yeah, there is nohing wrong with the practice of tipping ITSELF !!!!
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Rihanna312 said:
In my country tipping is not mandatory, but people still do that most of the time. I usually tip accordingly to the service and price I pay. I`ve been out with a friend and he was like 'I`ll cover the bill', but then he berkata that he doesn`t wanna leave a tip, just because he doesn`t do that in general. So I left it instead. But it`s lebih like the waiters are happy for that extra money rather than getting angry if they don`t get anything.
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Nick3600 said:
Tips are usually only expected from customers who pay with intercourse so I wouldn't know
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