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Margot Robbie Interview with Vogue Australia
Margot Robbie Interview with Vogue Australia
December 2017.
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Margot Robbie opens up about marriage, feminism and sexual harassment in Hollywood
Vogue Australia's December 2017 issue, cover shot by Lachlan Bailey.
Read the full cover story from Vogue Australia’s December 2017 issue.
Margot Robbie opens the door to an enormous hacienda-style mansion in Albuquerque, New Mexico, a door lined with Halloween pumpkins of varying sizes and hilarity. “Hi, I’m Margot!” she offers with a huge grin. Suddenly a scruffy little black rescue dog the size of a feather duster leaps out, spinning in circles, and Robbie’s smile turns to a frown of panic: “Oh, be careful, he might pee on you!” The pooch, named Boo Radley, jumps up and begins standing on two legs with such panache that you forget he is actually a four-legged animal.
It is a comical moment akin to a scene out of a Woody Allen comedy that morphs into
: the bombshell movie star – dressed off-duty in dark denim overalls, a striped red-and-blue T-shirt and white hotel slippers – and her excitable canine named after one of literature’s most famous characters, holding court in the middle of the desert. The rest of the home’s residents, who come and go over the next two hours, make up the supporting cast: there is Josey McNamara, the friend and business partner who appears from another room halfway through the interview, Sophia Kerr, the childhood bestie who doubles as an assistant and pops in from behind a stairwell, and Tom Ackerley, the handsome, laconic husband who wanders into the kitchen from the gym. Only this is Robbie’s real life, these are her real friends, and this is more than just a movie.
Robbie, 27, encompasses everything you want from a leading lady: she is funny and feisty, a femme fatale with looks to die for and a business-savvy, brilliant attitude to boot. She talks feminism and being a female role model as easily as discussing her favourite fashions while simultaneously crunching movie budget numbers like a seasoned accountant. Her favourite term “100 per cent” slips into conversation as easily as her other typical twentysomething saying, “like”; and her face lights up at the sight of her husband as much as it does when she discusses her absolute love for making movies. Family and friends are obviously her primary passions, with films coming in a very close second.
It has been 10 years since Robbie burst onto our TV screens in
before making the leap to Hollywood with a life-changing, scene-stealing turn in
in 2013. Since then her movie repertoire has run the gamut from indie films (
). In the coming months, she will appear in the period dramas
(in which she plays Queen Elizabeth I with a receding hairline and scarred skin) and
, in which she portrays Winnie-the-Pooh author AA Milne’s socialite wife Daphne with perfectly British aplomb. And while her star continues to rise, Robbie, not one to just sit back and enjoy the trimmings of Hollywood success, is now venturing further and stepping up into her newest role: that of producer and self-described president of her own production company. She is taking control of her own destiny from behind the scenes, where she wants to be a female role model by example, in charge of producing female-driven content.
“I already work with a ton of female writers who are brilliant, and I want to work with female directors,” she says. “I really want to work with actresses my own age. I’m trying so hard to get projects up and running with an ensemble of young female characters, because that’s my life, my group of girls, we’re a gang and we roll together and I’m like: ‘Why is that not reflected in film?’” She adds that a matured sense of confidence from several years honing the machinations of Hollywood has propelled her to take on producing. “I feel like I’ve been in the business long enough now watching other people make those decisions. I’ve had enough experiences to have more of an opinion like: ‘Actually, I wouldn’t have done it like that, or I think they should have done something different right now.’ So now I get to be one of those people who say: “Hey, maybe we should do it a little differently.” It’s nice to have that opportunity. It’s enormously satisfying to build something and to be part of something and to take control of my career.”
Albuquerque is the unlikeliest of places you would expect to find Australia’s brightest young Hollywood starlet building her own movie empire. But yet it is here, in the high-altitude desert plains, that Robbie has set up court for the short term while her production company, LuckyChap, makes a film nearby. The idea of LuckyChap was first born in 2013 in a house Robbie shared in London with her aforementioned entourage: Kerr, McNamara and then-boyfriend Ackerley, the latter both British assistant directors whom Robbie met on the European set of
. This year they all officially relocated to LA, where newlyweds Robbie and Ackerley finally moved into a house of their own, and the collective officially opened an office on the Warner Bros. studio lot in January. But on this October day, the LuckyChap team have temporarily rented this Airbnb mansion in the High Desert area at the foot of the Albuquerque mountains, high above the city, while they film
, the third movie to be produced under their banner. They are also preparing to release
, a dark comedy about Tonya Harding, the disgraced former ice-skating champion accused of orchestrating an attack on rival Nancy Kerrigan in 1994. The film, a bizarre true story that delicately tackles domestic violence and comedy, received rave reviews after it screened at the Toronto International Film Festival and there are already whispers of Oscar buzz for Robbie’s impressive turn as the perm and scrunchie-wearing ice-skating anti-hero Harding.
Here, Robbie is getting down to business while enjoying privacy away from the paparazzi that this desert sanctuary affords her. In between starring in and producing Dreamland, she is conducting meetings for her next projects – before our interview she had a script meeting, the day after she would meet with an Australian director who had flown in from LA especially to discuss a rather special project. Every other weekend, Robbie flies around the world to promote I, Tonya before returning to their little refuge nestled on a windy road lined with trees that are bursting with stunning autumnal colours and panoramic views.
“It’s stunning here. I went for a walk this morning trying to tire Boo out,” Robbie says as she looks out the window while putting the kettle on. As if on cue the dog reappears at my feet, doing that weird two-legged pose again. “It’s like walking into the set of an old Western. Apparently, it’s the cleanest air in America here, too. I think we’re 5,000 feet above sea level. And the crew are just so great to work with. It’s so beautiful, we’re really lucky.”
Ackerley walks into the kitchen just back from a workout and Robbie teases him affectionately about it being his second gym session of the day, before making him a cup of tea. The close bond between the pair, who married in an intimate ceremony in Byron Bay last December, is obvious. They briefly discuss scripts they have been reading and their plans for the evening – they are hosting a screening of I, Tonya for the cast and crew of Dreamland. Ackerley then gives his wife a quick kiss and disappears into the vortex of the house and Robbie, ever the hostess (incidentally she makes a mean cup of tea, perfected from years of living in London), offers me something to eat and reads out the contents of the fridge: watermelon, chicken, Japanese goji balls. She settles on watermelon.
Margot Robbie shot by Lachlan Bailey for
We move into the lounge, where Robbie sits in the middle of an enormous modular settee, cross-legged and by now barefooted (Boo has stolen her slipper for a chew toy), and while her conversation later meanders through to marriage, feminism and being a female role model, she begins to wax lyrical about LuckyChap. She is at pains to point out that while happy to use her star power to launch the company, it is a democratic collective of four primary members – soon to be six. They will also include TV projects on their production slate.
“I can’t star in every LuckyChap project, but to get started that’s how we got our traction, and so moving forward most projects I won’t be in,” she says. “And the goal would be to eventually have a very established production company with a varied body of work and hopefully critical acclaim and prestige connected to the name but the company would be its own entity, not ‘Margot Robbie’s company’ because it’s not, it’s everyone’s company and so we’d kind of like to steer away from that.”
I ask whether it is a help or a hindrance working with her closest friends, and Robbie shrugs her shoulders.
“A lot of people cautioned us against starting a company with our friends, and I was actually really disappointed with how many people told us that it was a bad idea,” she says. “But I guess we’re one of the exceptions to the rule because we’re still all the best of friends and we love working together. It’s perfect, because work never feels like work to me. I’m always with my best friends, I trust them implicitly, we know each other so well, we know everyone’s strengths and weaknesses and how to spread projects among ourselves so that we can be as productive and efficient as possible and it’s been great so far.”
spun her further into the blockbuster Zeitgeist (Harley Quinn was one of the most popular Halloween costumes last year, even among Robbie’s own friends, and has even been known to help her out when immigration officials don’t recognise her). She is also the face of Calvin Klein Deep Euphoria perfume, and the attention around her surprise wedding to Ackerley was intense. The pair celebrated their big day surrounded by 50 of her closest friends and family. Her now iconic Instagram post announcing the nuptials, with her sticking her ring finger up to the camera, went viral. “It’s crazy,” she says. “I’ve seen so many other people on Instagram announce their engagement that way now. It’s kind of funny, so bizarre.”
I ask if being married has changed anything, especially now they are working more closely together, and Robbie looks down at her pear-shaped diamond ring. “That’s the thing, we were best friends and roommates before and now we’re like best friends and roommates still, so nothing’s really changed at all. Other than the fact that I get to wear this on the weekends. I can’t obviously wear it during the week when I’m working – I don’t want to lose it on set.”
While fame brings invites to the Oscars and the Met Gala, Robbie’s down time is preferably spent with her nearest and dearest. Weekends at home are enjoyed visiting the local farmers’ markets, barbecuing “or picking up her dog’s poo”, according to Kerr. She remains tight with her school friends from the Gold Coast, and even went backpacking for a month in the Philippines with the LuckyChap team last year. “She has all the same friends since before she was famous,” Kerr says. “She FaceTimes her mum, siblings and nephew [who live on the Gold Coast] on a weekly basis. She’s in group texts where we all make fun of one another … she doesn’t get any special treatment!”
Robbie says she misses her family enormously and is extremely keen to come back and make a movie in Australia to spend more time with them, and support the local industry: “Ever since we got the company up and running, I was like: ‘We need to work with young directors, first- and second-time directors – male or female; we need to work with female writers, directors, actresses, obviously, and Aussies wherever possible. And let’s shoot stuff in Australia!’ That is my dream.”
Being at the centre of a business comes with a lot of pressure, she admits, but being surrounded by her close friends keeps her grounded. “It’s hard, I’m sure a ton of people reading this have their own business and it’s so hard. Having a business is stressful and time-consuming, but it’s incredibly rewarding,” she says. “There are obviously a lot of times where I’ll have a meltdown and go: ‘I can’t do it anymore.’ And you miss out on a lot of things, like you rarely go on holidays, you miss everyone’s weddings, everyone’s birthdays. I haven’t been home once this year, I haven’t seen my best friends, my nephew. So there’s that side to it where it kind of hurts to sacrifice those things, but it’s also enormously satisfying to build something and to be part of something. It’s wild to think it’s been 10 years since
. It’s so crazy because time has flown, but at the same time, so, so much has happened. I’m thrilled with where I’m at in my career. I’ve got absolutely no regrets, every experience has been incredible, character-building and career-shaping.”
I first interviewed Robbie in 2014 when she was promoting
success and excited about future prospects. She is still wide-eyed and excited, but has matured into a whip-smart woman determined to leave a definitive mark and create her own path under her own rules, and to have fun while doing so.
“Like sunshine” is how her best friend Kerr describes her, while
director Martin Scorsese says Robbie is “like no-one else”.
“Margot has … a unique audacity that surprises and challenges and just burns like a brand into every character she plays. She clinched her part in
during our first meeting – by hauling off and giving Leonardo DiCaprio a thunderclap of a slap on the face, an improvisation that stunned us all,” Scorcese wrote in a tribute to Robbie when she was named one of
magazine’s 100 Most Influential People earlier this year. “Margot is stunning in all she is and all she does, and she will astonish us forever.”
director Craig Gillespie says being able to work with Margot “was a director’s dream”. “She came to set so prepared, having thoroughly done her homework, complete with three different pitches to her accent depending on the age of her character,” the LA-based Australian director says. “She was so fully prepared, yet willing to improvise and take chances, and just really fearless. On top of all that, she has such a command of her craft that she makes it look effortless. She could adjust on the fly, and add nuances and colours to a performance. We had an amazing script, but Margot’s talent to improvise and react to her acting partners took it to another level.”
“Margot has that rare ability to be able to play drama and humour simultaneously. It’s a formidable combination. She is effortless with her humour, her timing is perfect. Yet she can turn on a dime and be so vulnerable and sympathetic. It’s so difficult to walk that tightrope: one misstep and you lose the audience, and Margot never did.”
Robbie, who is an avid ice hockey fan but had never actually skated before
, trained for months, sometimes skating up to four hours a day on the ice. When production started (while being the star in almost every scene, “it was actually my first lead role”), Robbie had the added task of being producer.
“Her ability to multi-task was extremely impressive,” says Gillespie. “She had a very intense schedule, yet she could step out of character at a moment’s notice, discuss a production issue, then get right back to it.”
Says Kerr: “It has come so instinctively to her, I often question if she is a better producer or actress. On I, Tonya she was skating off the ice and in between takes talking about the music budget or comparing prices of upcoming locations. She’d then skate back onto the ice again and she was back in character as Tonya Harding. The only thing that has changed is her workload and she’s handling it all like a boss.”
Rather pertinently, we meet while Hollywood is in the grip of the Harvey Weinstein scandal, with daily accusations being revealed, as more women find strength to speak out and take a stand against sexual harassment. The week before, Robbie had given an inspiring speech at a Women in Film awards night in the form of a “letter to Hollywood” in which she addressed how women “have to fight through degrading situations and will be offered chauvinistic roles by men who think that that’s all anybody wants to see us play. We are all just women, all facing the inequalities that being a women brings with it. And … though we are unique and powerful as individuals, we are invincible when we come together,” she said in her speech.
Back on the couch in Albuquerque, when I bring up the speech, Robbie’s smile turns defiant: “To me, when I think of women, I think the word that sums up women so well but isn’t used as often as it should be is ‘resilient’,” she says. “Women are so resilient and I think the response to the whole Weinstein situation kind of proved that. Because it’s astounding how quickly everyone pivoted from being heartbroken about the news to, how do we move forward? How can we move forward? What good can come out of this? Everyone was so supportive immediately and then automatically looking to the future, which made me even more proud to be a woman.
“Like at the awards the other night, [producer] Kathleen Kennedy was speaking about starting a fund so that there can be a support network if you’re ever put in a situation like this and there’s money behind it and there’s the resources, and there’s the people to turn to and there’s a solution. It’s not just like: ‘Let’s talk about it,’ it’s like: ‘What’s the actual solution?’ and everyone on that night was like: ‘I would firmly stand behind this.’ I think there’s also the fact that everyone kept coming forward, so I think that proves there’s going to be positive change out of it. People have come forward before and people will keep coming forward in the future, I hope. And if they’re not comfortable to do that, then let’s make it even easier to do. Let’s set up a fund, let’s set up some kind of support network system that works and people have a place to turn to. I think that would be the ideal.”
I ask if she considers herself a feminist, and she does not hesitate in her response. “I do, I do. But a couple of years ago I was almost scared to say I was because it had so many negative connotations, like: ‘If you’re a feminist, you hate men.’ I’ve been listening to a lot of TED Talks lately on new-wave feminism and it’s not about hating men, and men can be feminists too. My favourite definition of a feminist is ‘any person who believes in gender equality in a social, emotional, financial respect’, and that means Tom’s a feminist, I’m a feminist.”
She adds that she plans to harness her celebrity into being a role model for young girls, and wants to visit schoolgirls on her next trip to Australia. “I just want to say to young people that [success] is not as far away as it seems. I didn’t know anyone in the industry; it can totally happen,” she says. “I would like to do something like that to say something to the younger generation. To say: ‘You do have to work really hard, you have to work really, really, really hard, but if you want it badly enough, you can totally make it happen.’”
The light begins to fade as the sun sets on the mountains behind the property, changing from yellow to orange to red before fading to black. It is a stunning backdrop as Robbie discusses her passion for movies, which began as a kid on the Gold Coast, when she would sit on the steps of the cinema at Pacific Fair and watch movie trailers on repeat, enticed by the romanticism of the smell of popcorn and patterned cinema carpet.
“I still get that thrill; I guess it’s like escapism at its finest,” she says with a grin, her eyes literally twinkling. “On the acting side, my favourite thing is when I truly lose myself in a scene, when I forget that I’m on a set. It’s only truly happened a few times in my whole career, where I’ve genuinely forgotten I was on a set, forgotten that I’m not that character, forgot that it wasn’t that time, or that place. That’s the best feeling in the world. Better than skydiving; it’s like the most exhilarating thing to experience.”
I remark she suddenly looks like a child at Christmas talking about the movies. “Oh, it’s true!” she sparkles. Being on a film set, she adds, is “100 per cent the greatest place to be”. “I have some friends who come visit on set and they hate it and they can’t wait to leave, but I love it. Being on a film set is my favourite place, there’s nothing better. And I don’t care if I’ve got three lines in the film or if I’ve got one of the lead roles. I don’t care at all. When you’re on a set, it’s the best thing ever.”
Asked what her favourite memory is of making a movie and she nominates the final take of Terminal, the first film LuckyChap completed as a collective, which is yet to be released.“The last take wrapped and I remember the crew gave the four of us the clapper board at the end,” she says. “And when we knew that we’d just made a movie, that was a really amazing feeling. And we did it together, which was the best part. None of this stuff would be fun if you were doing it on your own. I get to do it with my best friends in the world, it’s just awesome.”
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