The Conspiracy against God is about "The Word", and the profaning of His Holy Name within us. Adam fell in the garden, breaking the direct connection to God. Jesus, the "last Adam" was a quickening Spirit, the Word made Flesh, and the only one with whom we can re-establish our relationship with God. Michael\'s story is still unfolding. He is the one who is, is not. But Jesus is the only name given under heaven by which we must be saved. Many are trying to rewrite HIStory. We were given a help to instruct us. Learn more "here".
What Does Michael Have in Common with The Lamb?
Yesterday we left off with part of one of Todd’s lectures. At the end of yesterday’s blog I posted a short 3+ minute video about some of the “New Agers” philosophies. These people are nothing more than Luciferians in disguise and as you get toward the end of the video one of the authors reveals in her book that she considers herself one of “the elders” who is in “charge” of making the decisions “for God” as to who lives and who dies . . . the “selection process” she calls it.
Did God say that you could decide, who will live and who will die? It’s as if we have no choice, it’s time for us to raise our voice” – We’ve Had Enough).
For those of any doubt that Michael was “New Age”, there are later lyrics of songs that are pretty in your face, specifically History, Blood on the Dance Floor and Invincible. “We’ve Had Enough”, I believe was supposed to go on the Invincible Album but it got stuck on the “The Ultimate Collection” with a bunch of re-do’s. But it STILL got out there.
And just like the Bible, some of Michael’s “hangers on” like Karen Faye like to take Michael’s music, emphasize PART of the lyrics to make their point and suppress other parts of his lyrics to make their point. This is what New Agers also so with scripture – (“
Same pattern with these people, Jesse” – Michael Jackson, Jesse Jackson radio show interview 2005).
On that above video, toward the end the narrator recites two verses from the Gospel of John – Jesus’s words. I added a couple more verses from that same chapter so that you get a fuller meaning. It is one of hope and so that you should know that Jesus knew what they were planning to do, 2,000 years ago. And he died for you so he could save you from it.
yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. 3. And these things will they do unto you,
I told you, that when the time shall come, ye may remember that I told you of them. And these things I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you. 5. But now I go my way to him that sent me; and none of you asketh me, Whither goest thou?
6. But because I have said these things unto you, sorrow hath filled your heart.
It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8. And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9. Of sin, because they believe not on me
This does not promise to save you from persecution. It does not promise to save you from what is to come. What it IS a promise of, is if you trust what he is telling you, if you believe him and that the died for you because he loves you – if you stretch out your hand to him and call to him, you will not suffer the judgment that THESE PEOPLE will suffer for what they are doing to you.
He tells you of the comforter sent to you. That is the Holy Spirit, to comfort us during the time we must endure for a short time this goes on, and that comfort is the love that the Bible talks about, and that Michael tried to remind us of. Michael’s song “You Are My Life” is about exactly that. Listen to the lyrics –
No more tears, no more pain . . . ‘Cause you love me. You helped me understand, that love is the answer to all that I am, and I, I’m a better man, since you taught me by sharing your life.”
The comforter comes when you call to him. Can you think of any more tragic a place then where Michael was when he wrote this? Surrounded by strangers, all trying to destroy him, break him down mentally and spiritually? They drugged him, tried to control him, used shock (picture of him with both pant legs up showing injury on BOTH legs). Can anyone honestly believe that this love that Michael has in his heart – to STILL be able to continue to get the message out to us through his music and the FIGHT he put up to withstand THEM long enough to get it to us – That kind of love did not come from the counterfeit god. That kind of love would only come through the one who sacrificed his life for us because he loves us.
So all of you who are still struggling as to why you can’t get Michael out of your head or your heart – That’s why! You are not supposed to. It’s hard trying to continue on the same path of your life with that kind of love pulling on your heart, isn’t it?
The stuff that is going on in the world is head-shakingly unbelievable. These are fellow human beings that have been deceived into thinking that they are gods, and have the power of whether you live or die. They have been deceived, just like John Todd was below, into thinking that Lucifer is the good guy.
That Bible verse from John above, is just one of many verses where today’s events are foretold. It is just one of many verses that proves the Bible is true, written by God who wrote it through men, just as God sang through Michael, using the very weapon, MUSIC, they had planned to use against us.
You want to know why Michael was so different from any other artist, THAT is why. And that is why people like Madonna, and KISS and Usher and Gaga and Beyonce will NEVER reach that power with people. The one singing through them is an imitator, not the creator. Lucifer is not about love. Lucifer did not and will not ever die for you. That is the difference between him and God. The jealousy of that power is timeless. And it rears its ugly head in everything manifested by the original “Ghost of Jealousy”.
I have at moments, sometimes going through days where I am so torn, trying to stick to this story Biblically. Trying to keep in the forefront of my mind who and what brought me here. The struggle between what certain pieces of information mean . . . who is twisting its meaning, what did Michael mean by THIS in his lyrics and so on. It’s like having shreds of flesh pulled off of my heart whenever those doubts creep in there, like a scab protecting your heart while it heals and it keeps getting ripped off. The confusion in this fight is so counterproductive but there is so much to learn from it. This is what they use to distract and lead away. But it is also something God uses to TEACH us something.
On a blog posted back in June of 2011, I discussed Michael’s “Childhood”, the ritual abuse of children he may have known or witnessed as he grew up in the industry. His song “Childhood” opens with “I’m searching for the world that I come from, ‘cause I’ve been looking around in the lost and found of my heart”. That blog is below:
Everyone reading this blog for any length of time knows that I have not only spent a vast majority of the past 2.7 years of my life scouring the dispersed pieces of Michael’s life through his songs, writings, art, films, speeches and even depositions first to learn who he is, so that we could help.
There were times I questioned who he was or if HE knew who he was. What I knew for sure was that God put me on this task. I was lucky to not really have been a fan of Michael, because that gave me a less cluttered platform in which to get to know him. I fell in love with him, I got angry with him, I was confused by him, but I knew I was obligated to him.
The reason I was obligated to him is because I asked to be. I asked God. What God has shown me in the last going on three years is exactly some of the very same turmoil, mental wrestling and confusion that Michael struggled through. I thought I was failing my task, but I wasn’t.
I was walking a path through a puzzle of Biblical parables. How else was I going to find the pieces?
The dedication to Michael is two-fold, from a celebrity idolizing level to a deeper, loving level that half the fan base can’t even really put into words. They feel something but can’t really identify what it is that makes Michael so different.
Regardless, this is the devotion that like everything else, these conspirators will twist and use to their advantage.
I believe Michael’s trial also had two purposes. Persecution always does. What they couldn’t accomplish by getting him convicted, thrown in jail and killed, they would use to further boost his popularity as a “martyr” of sorts. To build the “Christ” persona and deepen the allegiance to Michael. Don’t you find it amazing that Sneddon just backed away after a ten year fight to get Michael thrown in jail? The distant goal was the same even if their game plan changed.
They already knew they were going to kill him. That was the plan. But why not market his victimization? This would increase exponentially the level of dedication by his fans that almost ANYTHING produced with his name on it will bring in overzealous dollars from mourning fans salivating over their last piece of Michael. Even if it isn’t really him.
But they only THOUGHT they had control of him.
We are asked in Invincible, not once, but twice not to walk away and not to let go of his hand . . . whatever happens. Michael is telling us that STUFF is going to happen and we are not going to understand. We are going to want to close our eyes, we are going to have a hard time staying “in the room” with everything that’s going on. It will be confusing, “he tries to explain” as we are “afraid what he’s been doing’s not right” – the confusion as to the signs – is he on THIS side or THAT side? This is what I have been through . . . This is also what Michael has been through.
Keep the Faith – remember what God told you. In the order of appearance on the Invincible album, Michael told us (or God told us through Michael) –
1. - He’s protected, they can’t touch him (Unbreakable)
- The deception will be turned around on them (Heartbreaker)
- He’s tried to turn the industry around (Invincible)
- Reminder (to his church?) the love they had (Break of Dawn)
- He still struggled with mind control (Rock my World)
- A Painful goodbye for now, asking for trust (Don’t Walk Away)
- Prophecy of what is to come and what’s expected of us (Cry)
- Who God is holding out for, those still lost (Lost Children)
- Testifying of tribulation coming, Hold to God (Don’t Let Go of my Hand)
Go look up each of these songs on Youtube and listen to the lyrics.
Do a search on Google for “Michael Jackson Lyrics + Song” and even though some of these lyrics sites have some of the words wrong, it will still help you. LISTEN TO THE SONGS WITH A KEEN EAR.
Michael held tight to God. Despite what you see going on now with the estate, with the Music Label Sony, it is not Michael, it is not Michael’s message and what will be coming out of all this is not Michael either.
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30. And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.”
Man of sin, son of perdition will reveal himself first:
That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4. Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.”
And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.”
And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. 6A. nd the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
7.And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8. And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9.And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.”
26. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.”
1. And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
10. Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
11. And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12. Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.”
I will leave you tonight with this thought: There is a lady/girl (I don’t know how old she is) who posted a comment earlier today concerning the music industry and various groups not being satanic. I was getting ready to really bark at her for assuming I thought that all musicians were satanic (I never said that) and for calling people ignorant that believed that.
God works in mysterious ways and you know? I just LOVE what he does and the way he does it.
Susanne posted some examples of songs by Iron Maiden (I don’t like their music, I never listen to it, but one of my son’s used to). One of the song titles she posted caught my eye. So I thought, okay . . . I’ll look into it. The title of the song was “seventh son of a seventh son”.
The lyrics are below. This answered my questions over the last two years and it answered my prayers:
The Good and the evil which path will he take
Again, Michael Jackson, bits and pieces of songs he sang, things he said came to mind as I looked over those lyrics:
You’re the chosen one –I’m gonna need some kind of sign” – Cry
Jermaine’s example in his book about the lesson his father taught him about the tree is like a family and the bunch of branches the members. If you separate one, it is easily breakable but if they stay together, they are strong. (
here they stand, brothers them all , all the sons divided they’d fall)
Michael’s name and it’s meaning – Michael “who is like God?”, Jackson “son of Jack, Jacgues, Jacob” and “heal the world, make it a better place, for you and for me and THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE” (
Here the birth from an unbroken line, born the healer, the seventh, his time,”)
Seems like the world’s got a role for me, I’m so confused won’t you show to me you’ll be there for me and care enough to bear me”, and “not even politicians can do that (bring people together) - (unknowingly blessed as his life unfolds, slowly unveiling the power he holds)
The songs Dangerous with it’s lyrics strait out of Proverbs, “Blame it on the Boogie”, “Torture”, “This Place Hotel”, “Billie Jean”, “Who is It” and others, as well as this passage that I’ve repeated twice now:
And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 2. And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
(12 stars = 12 Tribes of Israel. Could Michael be that unbroken line?)
3. And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. 4. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
(The devil, Satan is the dragon, waiting to take the baby for his own)
and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. 6. And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days
– Miss Katherine: “the devil’s been having a field day with my son” . . . but the child was caught up by God instead and to his throne. The woman fled to the wilderness where God prepared a place for her for 3.5 years or, the 1,260 days.)
They watch the progress he makes, good and evil which path he will take, both of them trying to manipulate the use of his powers before its too late.)
(“I said don’t mind but what do you mean that I am the one who will dance on the floor in the round” . . . “
Everyone’s taken control of me, seems like the world has a role for me” . . . “Every head turned with eyes that dreamed of being the one” . . . “You’re the chosen one – I’m gonna need some kind of sign” . . . “This was written for me in the books. I have proven my part. Now God will be their judge . . .”)
He has the power to heal, he has the gift of the second sight. He is the chosen one. So it is written, so it shall be done.)
2. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
3. And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.”
I am no longer confused. I am no longer sad. As a matter of fact, I have been unable to stay still in this chair to type all this out today. I was so full of energy I went outside and clipped hedges, thanking God the whole time. The author of this story. I am in love with him and I hope he considers me one of his church.
I know who Michael is. And I know it’s not over. Not yet. But I know who wins.
So don’t let go of his hand. Whatever happens, you know who wins.
And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3. And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. 4. And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. 7. And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8. And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9. And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. 10. And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
11. And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 1. 2And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.”
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Revelation 11:1 (Before Christ returns)“And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.”
This is why the "Cry" video starts out with the woman looking out to the sea. Definitely time to hold hands and make a chain!
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.”
Copying and pasting from above,I don't know how to highlight, "This is the second death" and Michael in Earth Song, "What about death again".
Bonnie, You've put this all together wonderfully - God was definitely writing through you today! ;oD!
Hi blake - My plan . . . answer your email this weekend but leave it in drafts until Monday or Tuesday. That one email I definitely want to answer. Where is my time going?
Um, I think YOU are the one that just put the above together. I was going by the lyrics. You added the imagery from Cry. The ending to Earth Song yes. I hear that and I know what he's talking about. (singing . . . sorry Mike) and when you watch the film of that song he did, you KNOW it is God working and coming back and cleaning house! I feel like a little kid jumping up and down with excitement when I see that film. I can hear God giggling just like a parent who giggles at the silliness of a really happy child. :o)
Bonnie - I had to hurry that comment this morning or I was going to be late for work. I really should quit checking your blog in the morning because if there's a new post, I'm engrossed and the next thing I know, it's AAAAAAAAAHHH time and I have to literally throw myself together to make it to work on time.
I forgot to add in "Cry", as you well know, Michael was not included in the film. He was "out of the picture" so to speak, just as he is now - out of sight but definitely still with us, urging us on to join hands and help him change the world.
I got all excited while drying my hair thinking about a comment that Anonymous had made on the previous blog: Michael Jackson was known as the "King of Pop, Rock and Soul". But now people just call him the "King of Pop".
POP, P..O..P - the spelling is the same forwards and backwards...just like ABBA, Father. Pop is another name for father.
Mimi below posted that, "I believe “Michael was so different from any other artist” because Michael was genuinely, truly and immensely aligned himself with God.
POP music - ABBA, Father music, could not have been a better medium for him to reach out to the world.
Hi Blake - I was up EARLY this morning! 8am!!! I am so pwouwd of my self!
Maybe Michael wasn't supposed to be in "Cry" by design. You're right! Maybe his "battle" with Sony was just another story to cover up the true message of that song. Would Michael really take it out on the fans if he were mad at Sony? No. In that film, Michael is already gone.
Backtrack to the last song on that album that he made a film FOR and that is "Rock my World" At the end of that film, remember what happens? He comes face to face with Marlon Brando (The devil?) Michael says "I know who you are". Brando replies, "bang-bang" with a smile. Then Michael leaves before the shot fades to black. Then you see Michael joining up with his love interest (the bride church?)
This is the last film he makes until the 2003 half-finished "One More Chance at Love" - which I believe is ALSO God, through Michael, to his church bride (even though he's kicking stuff off of tables). Who knows how that video was really supposed to end because it was "finished" after Michael passed and it was "finished" by Sony.
What you said about the King of POP/ABBA . . . wow. I will have to set on that one for a bit. :o)
I meant to add that in the "Rock my World" film, Michael leaves Brando (wasn't time to take him out yet) for an "remote, appointed time". He was still "gathering his church" before the battle - the lady representing his church.
Bonnie – I believe “Michael was so different from any other artist” because Michael was genuinely, truly and immensely aligned himself with God. So everything he did come from a place of LOVE and that is why he was able to reach world acclamation and popularity. But other artist you named, their heart seems like not centered on Love for humanity to bring Peace on earth using their gift of music to awaken us like Michael did. They are mainly concentrated on worldly affair of fame and luxury of themselves.
I agree with you. Even those that do not really believe in God FEEL that even if they don't know what exactly it is that draws them to him. It also very much explains the hatred he drew from those who's hearts were bent on another agenda.
There ARE some artists who are about good though. Definitely not Madonna or Niki Minaj or M.I.A. You can tell which ones. Just look at their song lyrics . . . all about self fulfillment - "gimme all your love yeah gimme your love . . . gimmegimmegimme"
You said it exactly, but from what I am reading in the Bible, God will be THEIR judge and not us. You never know who God is going to talk to and rescue between now and that time appointed. I've heard some of Madonna's lyrics in other songs and I can't dismiss the fact that at one time, she regretted her decisions.
BONNIE, I am so glad you feel spiritually soothed with a new physical energy : through the abyss of doubt, you found a light at the end of the tunnel. Life is good :o)
Barbara Marx Hubbard : "People will either change or die. That is the choice."
How arrogant. To B. Hubbard : No darling, one may change or be forced to change but in the end you & I & everyone will have no choice but to die whether you belong to the NWO intellectual elite or the common man's world. These gurus profess inuendo at times like if they can forever live & break human & divine contingency rules. Not that the good camp is only on the Christians' side where the worst can also be found (God is for everyone on Earth) BUT a certain Elite does see the humanity as sheep to either stamp with the NWO ruling or send to slaughter. Abominable though, as they are so powerful.
The Jacksons family photos : very touching all the more now. Regarding the family reunion's pic of May 14, 2009, also inserted in Jermaine's book, what struck me : among all the family members, all beautiful & healthy people smiling widely to the camera, Michael's 3 children's expression (looking as usual so very cute too) made me imagine they looked then like children of a fairytale, with such an expression of poesy & fragility in their faces at that precise moment, still ignoring the tragic turn of their young life some 40 days later. Same for Michael. Of course, had I seen this pic in May/June 2009 when Michael was still around, probably I would have noticed an overall beautiful family only.
You are a gem. You just hang in there and weather the storms of my confusion and give me time to sort through it all.
I am amazed listening to some of Michael's song lyrics that this is similar to the confusion he went through, asking God in song to show him a sign and show to him that he'll be there for him and "care enough to bear" him. (man, I love that song!) But you know what else I feel? How much God loves him too.
Barbara Hubbard - I'm not worried about her. Yes, she's arrogant. That whole lot is and this is what they are raised to believe. They are taught from childhood that they are the elite and are "gods". Either the true God will talk to her heart or she will keep it closed off from him (is she even still alive? I don't know). There is one thing they cannot escape that this the truth when it comes the time when they can no longer run from it or manipulate it. They will have to look it in the face. No escaping it.
Michael's family - strong. Keep praying for them please.♥
Wow, I am speechless. God does indeed work in mysterious ways. If we believe in him he can use us as tools to get his message out. And use us as tools to help his lost children. He works through us. All we have to do is to believe. It makes you speechless. God rocks!
The devil use us as tools too. So we have to make sure the door is locked so that he can't get in and get a hold on us. And stay away from people who are dealing with the devil to bring us harm.
See that Susanne! You must have been putty in God's hands and didn't even know it until now! :o)
Yes, the devil uses people too. More important to keep God in your heart and stay focused on him. Devil won't enter where God takes up house.
Hi Bonnie. I Was surfing around on the net looking for music. I stumble on something called Death Metal. Now we talking spooky. There was a Death Metal group called, "7-Th Child". The songs on the album, Bled to death, Cold to the touch, The circle is complete, Confines of the mind.
The name of the group, 7-Th Child? Why do they call themself as a group 7-Th Child? That kind of creeps me out. Do you think we can fight the devil by listening to lyrics like that to figure him out? I won't listen to that album or any other "Death Metal". I didn't even know there was a music Genre called "Death Metal" until today.
The only reason I know what "death metal" is, is because I HAVE SONS. And unfortunately, they breezed through that ERA of their lives where they wanted to listen to stuff like that. Ugh. My son even tried the argument "but mom, there are death metal Christian groups!"
(???!! - shakes head incredulously) Jon - Think about what you just said . . . the words "Christian" and "Death" in the same description. Not happenin' dude!"
If you can't even understand the words that are coming out of their mouths, what is the REAL purpose of the music?
We're going to have to look into this "7th Child" stuff. Seriously.
"We're going to have to look into this "7th Child" stuff. Seriously."
Oh yes, an absolute priority to improve our culture & diminish our ignorance. I can't wait :o)))))
When I was around 11 and lost 1 parent, I soon started
with "heavy" music as well, very angry heavy music,
Rock like Queen [add oldies like Beatles and Elvis] took over once again :P No, not stopping with Beatles as I can't
see satanic stuff in there, especially compared to certain modern artists. Melodies are great.
So I guess it's a phase in teens' life, or when certain emotions take over, that's when heavy music creeps in.
expert here] songs I heard were totally devilish IMHO.
Not just excessive swearing, the "vibe" it gave me, was bad. I think they use it a lot to deliver "dark side" ideas, targeting teen boys and young men. Great potential
I'm worried about the band "U2". Have you seen this:
A U2Charist' (also spelled eU2charist or U2 Eucharist) is a communion service, or Eucharist, accompanied by U2 songs in lieu of traditional hymns and sometimes as part or all of the service music. The music can be played from a CD or, in less common cases, performed by a live band.
The U2charist was initially started in the U.S. Episcopal Church but has been adapted by several other denominations. It is typically a liturgical service (including communion) that features the music of the rock band U2 and a message about God's call to rally around the Millennium Development Goals. The U2charist is held by supporters to be a great opportunity to reach out to people in their congregations and larger communities, especially young people, with messages of global reconciliation and justice for the poor and oppressed. Bono, U2's lead singer, has been a particularly vocal proponent of the Millennium Development Goals, and has been proclaimed as a global MDG ambassador. The U2charist seeks to raise awareness of the MDGs and call people worldwide to a deeper faith and engagement with God's mission.
I think it is so wrong they are now playing U2 songs in church! I've been doing some research into 'Christian rock', 'Christian hip hop' and even some popular gospel music and I've found that it is bad news and is part of the evil music industry! The music industry is making money from Christians.
To me 'pop' music is 'popular' music and Michael Jackson was very popular he sold more than any other artist. Jesus Christ was known as the 'King of Kings'.
I used to like U2 back in the 80's. After they changed their music/look and bought into the "one world government" clan I stopped listening. What you are telling me is really disturbing. No, I had never heard of U2charist.
"The MDGs originated from the Millennium Declaration produced by the United Nations. The Declaration asserts that every individual has the right to dignity, freedom, equality, a basic standard of living that includes freedom from hunger and violence, and encourages tolerance and solidarity. The MDGs were made to operationalize these ideas by setting targets and indicators for poverty reduction in order to achieve the rights set forth in the Declaration on a set fifteen-year timeline" - Source, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Development_Goals
"The Millennium Declaration was, however, only part of the origins of the MDGs. It came about from not just the UN but also the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. "
These "goals" unfortunately for us include "Agenda 21" and mass genocide and global enslavement.
You are right . . . the "Christian" aspect of rock and hip-hop is to mislead and draw people to a "false god". Like I said before not everything that slaps a "Christian" label on it is good or has good intentions.
Must admit I was always suspicious about Bono,
no idea why, maybe because he tries too hard,
Hi. I watched a video on TMZ. TMZ asked Latoya if she thought Murray should be released from prison. She said, - No, absolutely not! My brother is not free.
I thought that MJ was free now. So I don't understand what she meant by saying that. Do you?
Micheline sent me that video last night. I saw it. There are a half a dozen different ways you can read into what she said. All of them interesting.
Michael is not free. She could have meant not alive.
On Murray being freed from Prison she said "No, Absolutely not"
She could have meant - No because he's guilty of murder.
She could have meant - no, he's in protective custody
Now gimme that scepter of "retard" . . . it's MY turn to hold it!
“...wonderous times...terrific experience...rightful orbit...position that it should be in the heavens...”
I’m having a hard time sorting, making sense of a lot of this stuff we are hearing.
“...more and more, more comfort and well being will come upon this world...”
Sounds like the droning calm of conformity and socialism.
“...those who hinder will be removed...liquidated...wiped clean off the face of the earth...”
They’ve been doing that for longer than some of us can mentally process. Unlearning...trying...
“root race” - could that be fallen angels?
Shocking stuff that they are so comfortable proclaiming.
Truth - I'm going to start approaching the subject you were researching here soon . . . just trying to see where to start to keep it Biblical. You know what I'm talking about :o) That was great stuff you found.
You are right about the droning conformity of socialism . . . or slavery ("we have everything under control, you have nothing more to stress you. Just wake, do your work, come home, live within the walls we give you . . . and worship us") I getcha.
Root race - exactly. The fallen angels, where it all started. The ones who refuse to take responsibility for screwing everything up in the first place.
TRUTH said "Shocking stuff that they are so comfortable proclaiming."
Yes indeed & in all this, Hubbard & the big Illuminati family also make a lot of :
Yes, I know what you’re talking about. ;o) I’m glad you mention it because I was becoming concerned what you were thinking about it all. Thank you. If there’s a particular slant or part of it you want me to look into I’d be happy to. There is just so much information I was becoming overwhelmed in the broadness and opposing theories/opinions. I look forward to what you come up with in keeping it biblical.
BTW, this “prove you’re not a robot”...having to type TWO fuzzy bouncing conglomeration of letters is ridiculous. If a bot can't type then what is the point...REALLY?!?
TRUTH, I realize now : Hope my Video with Liza Minelli did not shock you as I was only making fun of B. Hubbard's theories & the Illuminati. I would never target any of your comments.
What the band "U2" are doing worries me a lot. For more info on the U2charist see Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U2charist
The strange thing is U2 are not a Christian band so why do they have their music played in church? There are some very worrying things which are creeping into our churches.
Are you the same one that posted this further up? I saw this and I can't make heads nor tails out of it. U2 have the same credentials as Angelina Jolie/Pitt, only I don't think Bono ever cut himself. Since I stopped listening to U2 in the early 1990's I'm not even sure what music is being played in church. The most modern band's music I've ever heard in the church I go to is Brandon Heath. I agree with you anonymous. I don't know what their agenda is.
Peace? Not here! I thought something stronger than a full moon was going on . . . I just got cursed out by my 22 year old neice for a facebook comment I did not make. (???)
The only U2 song I've heard in church is "Beautiful Day". It is the first track from U2's 2000 album, "All That You Can't Leave Behind", and it was released as the album's lead single.
But I don't think 'secular music' should be played in church at all.
John Todd warned us about contemporary 'Christian rock' and country music.
Bonnie do you know about 'contemplative prayer', the 'Emergent church' and New Age mysticism and 'walking the Labyrinth'?
These are all worrying things creeping into our churches.
Hi Anonymous - I am more familiar with "Emergent Church" and New Age Mysticism then I am the other "contemplative prayer" and "walking the Labyrinth". Walking the Labyrinth is something I thought I read in reference to Kabbalacism. I noted when researching the Tree of Life that Kabbalah has stolen this too and twisted it and added to it to suit their agenda.
Disturbing still as I sat in church listening to a sermon this Sunday, and even during the Bible study, that the term "Israel, God's chosen people" has been and still is taught to mean that we should support Israel the state. In that same sermon the pastor is READING out of the Bible how Israel consistently disobeys God, worships idols, and steers clear of the verses that state that "a remnant of Israel will be saved" and that "a remnant will be called out of her" (Jerusalem).
They play that contemporary music in the church we go to as well but I don't believe all contemporary music is evil. If Music is praising God it is not evil. We can't throw all of it away, God CREATED music. But I agree that there are elements of brain washing or mind control incorporated in a lot of the Christian contemporary music and it worries me too because very few know/are taught the difference.
Discernment is what is needed. See this video about U2:
I'm also worried about the charismatic movement, signs and wonders, the Toronto blessing and the 'Prosperity Gospel'.
There are videos on You Tube about the dangers of walking the Labyrinth and contemplative prayer.
"I continued the study because what I found frightened me and because I felt others needed to be warned. The teachings of Manning are very dangerous.
There is a seductive quality to his writings. He reports grappling with and overcoming fear, guilt, and psychological hang-ups and difficulties, including alcoholism. He gives the impression that he has a very intimate relationship with God and that he has insight to a superspirituality. He regularly meditates and reports having many visions and encounters with God. He is an extremely gifted writer who is able to tug at the emotions of the reader while at the same time introducing ideas that the reader would immediately reject if they were not cloaked under this emotional blanket.
He promises readers that if they apply his teaching they too will gain this same intimacy with God as well as freedom from fear, guilt, and psychological hang-ups and difficulties. This is very attractive. Manning's prescription to achieve this is not by traditional prayer and by the reading and application of the Bible. Rather, the means to this end is a mixture of Eastern mysticism, psychology, the New Age Movement, liberation theology, Catholicism, and Protestantism.3 This mixture will not deliver intimacy with God. It no doubt will lead to special feelings and experiences. Those practicing Manning's methods will likely feel closer to God. However, in the process they will actually move away from Him as a result of a counterfeit spirituality." - Source, http://www.faithalone.org/journal/1997ii/Caddock.html
I'm not even there yet, but something is going on. Being fought on different levels today.
Assayas: I think I am beginning to understand religion because I have started acting and thinking like a father. What do you make of that?
Bono: Yes, I think that’s normal. It’s a mind-blowing concept that the God who created the universe might be looking for company, a real relationship with people, but the thing that keeps me on my knees is the difference between Grace and Karma.
Assayas: I haven’t heard you talk about that.
Bono: I really believe we’ve moved out of the realm of Karma into one of Grace.
Assayas: Well, that doesn’t make it clearer for me.
Bono: You see, at the center of all religions is the idea of Karma. You know, what you put out comes back to you: an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, or in physics; in physical laws every action is met by an equal or an opposite one. It’s clear to me that Karma is at the very heart of the universe. I’m absolutely sure of it. And yet, along comes this idea called Grace to upend all that “as you reap, so you will sow” stuff. Grace defies reason and logic. Love interrupts, if you like, the consequences of your actions, which in my case is very good news indeed, because I’ve done a lot of stupid stuff.
Bono: That’s between me and God. But I’d be in big trouble if Karma was going to finally be my judge. I’d be in deep s—. It doesn’t excuse my mistakes, but I’m holding out for Grace. I’m holding out that Jesus took my sins onto the Cross, because I know who I am, and I hope I don’t have to depend on my own religiosity.
Assayas: The Son of God who takes away the sins of the world. I wish I could believe in that.
Bono: But I love the idea of the Sacrificial Lamb. I love the idea that God says: Look, you cretins, there are certain results to the way we are, to selfishness, and there’s a mortality as part of your very sinful nature, and, let’s face it, you’re not living a very good life, are you? There are consequences to actions. The point of the death of Christ is that Christ took on the sins of the world, so that what we put out did not come back to us, and that our sinful nature does not reap the obvious death. That’s the point. It should keep us humbled . It’s not our own good works that get us through the gates of heaven.
Assayas: That’s a great idea, no denying it. Such great hope is wonderful, even though it’s close to lunacy, in my view. Christ has his rank among the world’s great thinkers. But Son of God, isn’t that farfetched?
Bono: No, it’s not farfetched to me. Look, the secular response to the Christ story always goes like this: he was a great prophet, obviously a very interesting guy, had a lot to say along the lines of other great prophets, be they Elijah, Muhammad, Buddha, or Confucius. But actually Christ doesn’t allow you that. He doesn’t let you off that hook. Christ says: No. I’m not saying I’m a teacher, don’t call me teacher. I’m not saying I’m a prophet. I’m saying: “I’m the Messiah.” I’m saying: “I am God incarnate.” And people say: No, no, please, just be a prophet. A prophet, we can take. You’re a bit eccentric. We’ve had John the Baptist eating locusts and wild honey, we can handle that. But don’t mention the “M” word! Because, you know, we’re gonna have to crucify you. And he goes: No, no. I know you’re expecting me to come back with an army, and set you free from these creeps, but actually I am the Messiah. At this point, everyone starts staring at their shoes, and says: Oh, my God, he’s gonna keep saying this. So what you’re left with is: either Christ was who He said He was the Messiah or a complete nutcase. I mean, we’re talking nutcase on the level of Charles Manson. This man was like some of the people we’ve been talking about earlier. This man was strapping himself to a bomb, and had “King of the Jews” on his head, and, as they were putting him up on the Cross, was going: OK, martyrdom, here we go. Bring on the pain! I can take it. I’m not joking here. The idea that the entire course of civilization for over half of the globe could have its fate changed and turned upside-down by a nutcase, for me, that’s farfetched
Bono later says it all comes down to how we regard Jesus:
Bono: If only we could be a bit more like Him, the world would be transformed. When I look at the Cross of Christ, what I see up there is all my s— and everybody else’s. So I ask myself a question a lot of people have asked: Who is this man? And was He who He said He was, or was He just a religious nut? And there it is, and that’s the question. And no one can talk you into it or out of it."
So does he really believe in Christ? If he does, then how is he still out there running around making music and being pulled into churches and Michael was persecuted?
"If he does, then how is he still out there running around making music and being pulled into churches and Michael was persecuted?”
One was chosen (by both sides, apparently), heavily invested in and being groomed for a “special” mission but rejected it all and spoke out for a long time. I imagine that caused the evil one some fury.
Bono - assassination is always an option for anybody who gathers too many listeners that believe they can change the world for the better.
I am not independently familiar with Bono, so that is a guess.
He is an Goodwill Ambassador of the U.N. and although he may have no control over what churches do with his music, one can hope that Bono and his group have only been stealthy in getting their message out. I agree with you that Michael was chosen for the front and center and it is his love for people that shines through any misinterpretation of any message he gave. Whatever battles he is still facing, I'm behind him (or in front of him . . . wherever God wants me).
I'm sure you got that already, but just in case,
Bonnie, I need your help, sorry if it was up somewhere.
We all know these 3 Cascio tracks on Michael album were
not him, and Paris, once again, confirmed it on her twitter
But on Feb 1 Prince tweets that "Ppl who will always be in
my mind and heart Dad, Monkey, the Cascios, the Stevens,
Anton, Franchesca, Jaz, Jess, Sarah J.J, Lizzy, Nikita,..."
I just can't get it, does he mean older Cascios maybe?
who put fake Michael on $ony product, for profit and some
attention and promotion [handy, book right after] ?
I'm really confused :( If these people are handlers and leeches,
why would sweet Prince think good of them, he can't be
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