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posted by Bella_Dhampir
Oh, fallacies!

So.. as stupid as this may sound, I've never really known about fallacies. That is, until this year, when we learned about them. To tell anda the truth, I felt pretty stupid after that English lesson.. not because I had never known about fallacies, but because I realized that I used them in A LOT of arguments. O.o

So I guess I just wanna senarai a couple of popular ones, and define them for any of anda who also don't really know about fallacies, and just talk a bit about them and how I've used them before.

1. ad hominem
This is when the arguer attacks the person instead of the argument they're making.

Well well well well. I'm not sure if I do this often, because I can't bring myself to remember a time I criticized a person instead of their argument, but then again, I could have been doing it subconsciously. Here is an example of a person using the ad hominem fallacy:

Person 1: Anjing are better than cats.
Person 2: No, Kucing are better!
Person 1: Anjing are better because they are lebih trusting and loving than cats.
Person 2: Kucing are loving creatures too.
Person 1: I didn't say Kucing weren't loving, but Anjing are lebih loving than them.
Person 2: You're such an idiot! Any smart person knows that Kucing are better!

See? If anda were the saat person in this argument, anda probably even wouldn't realize that anda were using a fallacy. Why? Because it's just a reflex anda have when you're in an argument, and you're frustrated. It might be because anda don't have any evidence atau facts to support your side of the argument left, atau maybe you're in the heat of the argument and anda say that out of passion. Who knows… the point is it's stupid. It might not sound stupid then, but if anda review the argument later on, anda realize how stupid it was. What's even worse is that the person you're arguing with will probably notice that you're attacking them instead of their argument, and that doesn't give off a good impression. -.-

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2. ad ignorantiam
When anda state that a specific belief is true because we don't know that it's not true.

Haha! Sorry, it's just that I use this one….. A LOT. I'm Christian, and so I'm always ready to defend the existence of God, but I've never realized how often my arguments use this fallacy. Here's an example:

Atheist: God doesn't exist.
Me: Yes, He does.
Atheist: How do anda know that?
Me: Because anda don't know for sure that He doesn't. There isn't any real evidence.

O.O
I do this in almost any argument about religion, and I'm sure anda do too in any kind of argument really. It's hard not to… I mean, it seems like the PERFECT response, when in fact, it isn't. I guess it's an easy-way-out, when anda don't have any evidence to back yourself up. Heh. Quite sad really, so be careful about this one! It's hard to not use it at times..

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3. Argument from authority
When anda state that something is true because an individual of high authority atau power says so.

"You must Cinta others because God berkata so." This is probably my state of mind at all times, but in this case, it isn't a bad thing because I'm not arguing with anyone, and when was loving someone a bad thing?! An example of this fallacy would be:

Person 1: Aliens exist.
Person 2: How do anda know?
Person 1: Well, there have been UFO sightings sejak airline pilots, so that's proof that they exist.
Person 2: Can anda trust these airline pilots?
Person 1: Of course! They are trained observers, they're reliable, and don't panic in emergencies. They are completely trustworthy.

I'm not sure how many of anda use this fallacy in your arguments, but it's understandable because it seems like common sense to trust any professional. The only thing anda need to know is that highly educated people can sometimes be wrong~ we are human after all.

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4. Post Hoc atau Doubtful Cause
Because one event follows another, the first event must be the cause for the second.

I'm pretty sure that people do this a lot, because it seems logical, and sometimes it could be the case. However, there are other factors that can cause a situation, besides the prior event. Here is an example of this fallacy:

I didn't do my Math homework, and I failed the seterusnya Math test we had. My Math teacher failed me because I didn't do his/her work.

..or another example I like:

Since Obama has come into office; unemployment has increased. Obama's policies have caused lebih people to be unemployed.

As anda can see, it's pretty straightforward. This fallacy is very much about assumptions, so anda can pretty much say that whenever anda make an assumption, anda might be using this fallacy! Be cautious assumptive arguments.

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5. False Analogy
Assuming a similarity between two things, people, atau situations when in fact the two things being compared are not similar in any fashion.

I do this a lot, especially when I'm arguing with my brother. I guess it's because I'm trying to think of a comparison, and go with the first thing that comes to mind, which often ends up being a useless comparison. Here is an example of a false analogy:

This bebola daging, meatball pasta tastes like heaven!

A simple harmless face…. laced with a false analogy. A bebola daging, meatball pasta has a physical existence, whereas heaven is spiritual. Therefore, anda cannot compare the two, because they are completely different from each other. On the other hand, anda won't be taken to jail if anda do, because you're merely hyperbole to express and emphasize how anda feel about the pasta. The only time anda shouldn't use a hyperbole is if you're trying to make a serious argument… anda don't want to exaggerate then, but be clear and concise.

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6. Non sequitur
When anda make an argument in which the conclusion does not logically follow from the premises.

Sounds kinda like the post hoc right? Well, it's similar in some ways, but the difference is that the post hoc is due to a lack of a casual connect, but the non sequitur fallacy is due to a lack of a logical connection. Non sequiturs are jumps in logic, that really make no sense. Here is an example, I had to take it from this site: <link> because I actually had trouble thinking of my own:


There is a God; the Bible says God created the Earth about 6000 years ago. Therefore, the world is only about 6000 years old.

I'm not sure if I even need to say much about this, because it's pretty straightforward. I can't say that I use this fallacy a lot, but anda can think of times when anda might have. :P

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7. Slippery Slope
Stating that an event will result from another without any argument for the inevitability of the event in question.

This is one of my favorites, because I use it a lot, and I'm sure other people do too. :D Don't like.. there is one point in your life when you've done this. Probably for emphasis atau something, because this fallacy seems like the kind anda purposely use, not accidentally. Eh, any-who… Here's an example:

We have to stop global warming, otherwise in a couple of years, we'll all be dead!

…another famous one:

anda can never give anyone a break. If anda do, they'll walk over you.

Slippery slopes usually jump a couple of steps, so instead of going from Point A to Point B, anda end up going from Point A to Point E. So, even though global warming is ruining our planet, and will cause HUGE issues in the future, if anda state your argument like I did above, it sounds quite ridiculous. Even the saat example may be true, but anda can't state that giving even one person a break will cause everyone to walk over you. I think all the fallacies I've mentioned have one moral: Think before anda speak. Lol.. otherwise, anda end up sounding quite stupid, for lack of a better word.

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8. Straw Man
When anda misinterpret atau set up a fake/weaker example of someone's argument, and then disagree with the fake argument.

I do this a lot, except I don't even know when I do. Whenever I argue about the existence of God, I usually do this because it's just easier than trying to argue with the real argument, lol. I don't do it on purpose though, but I'm pretty sure that all them Atheists I argue with think I am.. ^.^ Here is an example:

Boy: Dad, can we get a dog?
Father: No son.
Boy: But why?
Father: Because a dog is a lot of work, and we don't have the time and patience to take care of one.
Boy: A dog would be great protection! anda want to leave our house unprotected!

Seems kind of silly when anda read it, but anda probably do that everyday if your life. Face it, anda do. Whether on purpose atau not, anda do because that's just the way it is. Great debaters always make sure to argue with the other person's argument, and not with a straw man. I am not a great debater, so I always make that mistake. It's actually REALLY hard.. anda have no idea. It's like a subconscious thing. :P Argh, stupid straw man.

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9. Begging the soalan atau Circular Reasoning
Making an argument in which each stage of the argument uses the sebelumnya stage as justification.

Basically, going around in circles. I do this a lot as well, because like most of these fallacies, it just makes things easier! It also makes a lot of sense while typing the argument, but when someone points it out and anda re-read what anda wrote…. yeah, it looks pretty dumb. Here is an example:

Believer: God does exist.
Non-believer: How do anda know?
Believer: Because the Bible says so.
Non-believer: How do anda know the Bible is saying the truth?
Believer: Because it was written sejak God.

I actually googled this example, and the first time I read it, I didn't see the fallacy. It seemed like a perfectly normal and valid argument to me! Hahaha! I really need to reevaluate myself. Anyway, after the 3rd read, I got it and I had to perahu nelayan kecil, pukulan myself on the forehead, because I probably use circular reasoning a lot. :P I'm sure anda do as well… let's face it. It's just one of those things that's saat nature…. atau maybe that's just me.

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10. Appeal to popular Opinion
When anda claim that an idea atau belief is true because it's what most people believe.

Another common one, that EVERYONE uses. Don't lie to yourself, anda do it all the time. When anda decide to buy the new iPhone atau new Muzik album sejak Rihanna, you're using this fallacy; the only reason you're buying those items is because EVERYONE says they're great. Here is an example of this fallacy:

Me: I have to go see the Avengers!
Wendy: Why?
Me: Because it's a great movie!
Wendy: How do anda know? anda haven't even watched it..
Me: Because everyone says it's great!

Just a side note: the Avengers actually is a pretty epic movie, so anda should watch it. Anyway, this fallacy is very very popular, because it's usually how we make decisions in life.. lol. However, if you're an independent, strong individual, then perhaps anda don't succumb to using this fallacy. O.o
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Everything has changed

(Taylor)
All I knew this morning when I woke,
Is I know something now (know something now),
I didn't before.

And all I've seen,
Since 18 hours ago,
Is green eyes and freckles and your smile
In the back of my mind making me feel like...

(Taylor)
I just want to know anda better,
Know anda better, know anda better now.
(2x)

(Both)
I just want to know anda better,
Know anda better, know anda better now.

I just want to know you, know you, know you,.


Cause all I know is we berkata hello,
And your eyes look like coming home.
All I know is a simple name,
Everything has changed.

All I know is anda held the...
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The seterusnya hari was normal; everyone went to the underground place and got what everyone called "Monster Updates". The seterusnya hari was the Halloween Bash, and everyone buzzed with excitement.

Right before first period Emma went up to Mellissa and Eve wearing a witch hat. "Hey! Aren't anda guys excited?!" Emma exclaimed. "Yeah!" Eve and Mellissa said. "Mel, are anda going with anyone?" Eve asked. "Leo, but just as friends. I'm not ready for guys yet." Mellissa motioned to her brother, who was goofing around with his Friends in the hall. Eve and Emma nodded in understanding.

At lunch they sorted everything...
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posted by MadMeggi
1. Walk up to an old person and scream "Grandma/Grandpa your alive!

2. Hide in a closet at Ikea and pop out at people saying "I'm back from Narnia!"

3. Throw water balloons at passing cars.

4. Go door to door asking people for ice cubes. Take them home, melt them, and then take them back saying "I don't want them anymore.

5. Give a Rawak stranger a Wet Willy.

6. Get caught masturbating and watching porn.

7. Call Walmart and ask if they sell they're employees.

8. Slap a waitress.

9. When a waiter asks anda want anda want to drink, tell them "Wouldn't anda like to know???!!!???"

10. When anda hear someone say something depressing, scream out Let's have a party!
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Yes, this is from Tumblr.

Everyone: What emo shit are anda listening to?

Linkin park: When life leaves us blind, Cinta keeps us kind

Of Mice & Men: I've held my tongue for far too long, the silence kills me

My Chemical Romance: anda only live forever in the lights anda make. When we were young we used to say, that anda only hear the Muzik when your hati, tengah-tengah begins to break.

Green Day: So make the best of this test and don't ask why. It's not a soalan but a lesson learned in time. It's something unpredictable, but in the end it's right. I hope anda have the time of your life.

Black Veil Brides: Never...
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posted by randomgirl3000
1. Our brains create dreams through Rawak electrical activity. About every 90 minutes, the brain stem sends electrical impulses and the analytic portion of the brain tries to make sense of these signals.

2. Some dreams are meaningful as they give us insight into ourselves. Dreams help us connect to our unconscious mind and make sense of our wishes and fears. Dreams help us make sense of our past, present and future sejak getting us in tune with our emotions.

3. Even though we can dream at any time of our sleep, we are most likely to dream during REM sleep.

4. We can sometimes control our dream...
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Pick the bulan anda were born on:
(Jan) I partied with
(Feb) I smoked with
(Mar) I kicked
(Apr) I kissed
(May) I fought
(Jun) I died with
(Jul) I drunk with
(Aug) I ran naked with
(Nov) I killed
(Sept) I went into the hunger games with
(Oct) I sung to
(Dec) I robbed a bank with

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Pick the hari anda were born on:
(1) Finnick Odair, Sexyness god of panem
(2) Lindsey Lohan
(3) A hobo
(4) Josh Hutcherson
(5) A REALLY pretty girl
(6) An i-Pod
(7) My grandfather
(8) Peanuts
(9) One Direction
(10) A ninja
(11) Death
(12) A gummybear
(13) A corpse
(14) Aphrodite100
(15) Dumbledore
(16)...
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posted by brianna91997
1. if anda have mario, play some mario games.

2. Go on Fanpop for 1 atau 2 hours.

3. post a couple tweets on twitter if anda have an account.

4. play outside.

5. go bike riding atau swimming

6. read a book (i know some people think its boring)

7. draw something on paper atau on the computer

8. watch nyan cat on youtube

9. play a zelda game if anda have any zelda games

10. watch hello kitty video on youtube

11. play your 3ds for 3 hours if anda have a 3ds

12. post 100 pictures on deviantart if anda have an account

13. make a account on a website anda know of

14. post 10000000 pictures on this club (i know anda cant...
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He kills and kills but doesn't know why
it doesn't matter how hard he tries.
if anda say Vietnam he'll stab anda with a fork
if anda say tiger you're head won't work.
He can use fire, pencils and car gas
heck, he'll just use whatever he has.
You can't stop him no matter what
if anda call for help he'll stab anda in the butt.
Never run because anda know he'll catch you
he might torture atau just plain kill you.
Run for cover, lebih like run for death
he'll fill your eyes with crystal meth.
It doesn't matter if anda run atau cry
either way you'll just plain die.
Almost anything can set him off
you better pray to god that...
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I never thought i would end up like this.Alone dying and not being able to care for my brother.Running away from gaurds into the alley atau our so called home.We never left the city border but my brother dreams of it when he grows up so he can care for me."Brother it's ok"I berkata giving him half of the warm soft loaf of bread.My brothers hand shook while he reachout ands grabbed the roti and slowly nibbled every last piece of it.As he and i listed the reasons why would should go to heaven and so far we came up with one reason hat both of us were suffering with."Dear god keep us alive for at least...
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 as a human
as a human
a boy named Christan was at a special place he took his phone he didn't know until now. Now Christan is living Different lives. with light and school but what he doesn't know is what will happen in the future its a journey in a matter of life and death but Christan is missing out on school can he stop and leave from heaven but Christan remembers that his mom said, once Anointed anda can stay and use your powers to Erase anda when anda wanna come down anda cane put them in and go. so he fights its long a long way down but Christan doesn't stop he goes and sees God. there halo shines but this works God helped. now. Christan goes but wait he cant use his powers again. to finish read book two buh-bye
 as an Angel
as an angel
"Joe!It wasn't any of the three girls!What now?"Josie asked."Whoa wait,Three?There was only two in her apartment!It Was Natalie and Penny!Natalie came in to see if Kate was okay!Then she called the cops!That means it was-"Joe said."Penny!!!What!!That's IT!"Josie berkata as she got her walkie talkie thing."Attention all units!This 92-J4!I need a couple cops to back me up at walnut Evergreen 46 lane!And hurry!"Josie said.
"Thanks Joe!"7 minit later she and 4 other cops were at Penny's house."Okay,One,Two,Three!"Jenny said,As they busted down the door.They heard a gulp upstairs."Upstairs,Go go go."Josie...
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posted by adaug
Hello!Welcome to soalan with me!Okay first question:Uhm there's no name on here,okay well i says:Q:Why does TV Have commercials?A:good question!
answer is:WHY IS THE FREAKING SKY BLUE?GOD SHUT UP!

What do anda think?Give your opinion in the comments!
And put your soalan in the komen-komen and I'll answer one tomorrow!Bye!



IGNORE THIS PART!(I GOTTA MAKE IT LONGER!)

Yeah Remember TO komen YOUR QUESTION!I WILL TRY AND ANSWER ONE,EITHER LATER TODAY,OR TOMORROW!


SO I GOTTA MAKE THIS THING LONGER (idk why)But yup!
Gah gotta make it longer!ARG!Oh well!
what if kambing biri-biri where one of us do do do
a simple slob like one of us do do do

i don't live on a farm and i don't have a pet kambing biri-biri but there something about writting Rawak artikel about them i a krave

idiots put them in pies i think that is very disturbing anda wouldn't but a baby in a pie??!!???!!

so what i'm saying is donate £3 a bulan and a kambing biri-biri will be telah diberi a utama and not a pie and anda will get a free adoption pack and a cudderly toy and what eever anda donate shut-your-face fund will triple it
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As I stare listlessly into the mirror, the fuzzy image that gazes back at me is someone I barely recognize. But I do. They say prison causes profound changes in a man, and the most extraordinary stem from the most incredible circumstances. That man in the mirror has undergone an unimaginable plethora of alterations because he is the absolute worst thing one can be in prison: an innocent man.

I detect the bitterness in his hazel eyes, the constant worry that wrinkles his forehead, the anxiety that sets his jaw like cement and the frustration that has lightened his hair from brown to salty beige....
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I found this on the internet is so funny read and enjoy and if anda like it the credit is not for me so have fun!

Guest: “why does the dog sit there and watch me eat?”
Hotel Host: “I can’t imagine, unless it’s because anda have the plate he usually eats from.”

A guy phones up his boss , but gets the bosses’ wife instead:
“I am afraid he died last week” she explains.

The seterusnya hari the man calls again and asks for the boss.

“I told anda “the wife replies, “He died last week”

The seterusnya hari again he calls again and once lebih asks to speak to his boss, sejak this time the wife is getting...
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All the things she said
All the things she said
Running through my head
Running through my head
Running through my head
All the things she said
All the things she said
Running through my head
Running through my head
All the things she berkata
This is not enough

I'm in serious shit, I feel totally lost
If I'm asking for help it's only because
Being with anda has opened my eyes
Could I ever believe such a perfect surprise?

I keep asking myself, wondering how
I keep closing my eyes but I can't block anda out
Wanna fly to a place where it's just anda and me
Nobody else so we can be free

All the things she said
All the...
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