Yes Offcourse I love him because the others are soo bounce. I thxxxxxxxxxxxxxx him soo much. I like him soooo much. Ohhhhhhh never would I hate him, Kristofffffffffffffffff.

^ I can't believe I just said that. xD.


He's my favorite Disney Prince actually.

Offcourse Kristoff is awesome because all the other princes are soooooo bounce! I like it sooo much! I like him more than tylor swift. I adopted him from the internet. Elsaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa­aaa­aaa­aaa­aaa­aaa­a.

I was dared. XD

He's currently my second favorite prince, but he might move up to first :0

He isn't the most original character, but he's likable.

He's just adorable, and to me, he's a real representation of a boy. From Frozen, it also seemed like they were giving off a message that not all boys are perfect. Hans is supposed to be the "dream boy," and a lot of girls fall for him and will rush to him before the rush to Kristoff. Kristoff, on the other hand, is the type of boy who acts tough and tries to keep a manly image, when really he's adorable and a softie. Today though, it seems a lot of girls go for a Kristoff boy and not a Hans.

One of my favorite Disney Princes

He's undeveloped and unnecessary. They don't tell why he doesn't like people and prefers reindeer's over humans. They don't explain why he's on the ice with the men, since none of them were apparently his father. He didn't need to exist because he adds nothing and doesn't develop and was half assed written to begin with. While not bad or horrible, he's not a good character either, he's just okay. There's not a lot to him.

Underdeveloped but occasionally endearing.

He's my second least favorite Prince.

He wasn't interesting nor was there any development for him. Overall I didn't find him a good character.

I like him a lot. He's almost the only thing I like about Frozen.

He's one of my favorite princes.

Yes indeed.

Never cared for him, likely never will.

Underdeveloped and completely unneeded. The Hans we see for the first two thirds of the movie is a much better and more sincere character and I wish we got to see more of him.

(I have to separate beginning of the movie Hans and end of the movie Hans in my head because I can't seem the two of them as being the same character. The writers really screwed up in that respect.)

I'm not quite sure how Kristoff is unneeded. Without him Anna would have frozen on the top of the mountain. But that's none of my business.

^ Plot-wise, Kristoff IS needed because Anna has NO survival skills.

I mean, really. She rushes off into the woods after her sister without bringing so much as a coat (she says "Fetch my horse!" but can't even add "and my coat" after that statement?), gets bucked off her horse before nightfall, falls into an icy stream less than thirty seconds later (thank goodness for Oaken's cabin or she would have frozen to death then and there), needs Kristoff's sled and knowledge of the terrain to even find the North Mountain, insists they leave immediately instead of waiting till morning when they're rested, fed, and refreshed, then they get attacked by wolves on the way! When they come across the cliff, she tries to climb it and doesn't even get three feet off the ground despite how exhausted she is ("Does the air feel thin to you?"), then needs Olaf to tell her "There's some stairs over here." I could go on.

And that's not even getting into what happens after Elsa freezes her heart, and she needs Kristoff to practically carry her to the trolls and the castle, or else she would have frozen on the spot.

While Gerda braves the journey through the frozen wilderness alone in the original short story, Anna needs Kristoff (and later Olaf) to help her almost literally every step of the way in the movie. Without Kristoff, Anna wouldn't have gotten two feet out of Oaken's Spa. At best she would have searched fruitlessly around for her sister for several weeks, at worst she would have done something stupid and gotten herself killed.

I find it rather disingenuous how the film tries to pretend Anna's so tough and capable by showing her to be so spunky and witty when talking to Kristoff, and show "Isn't she one tough cookie for saving him from the wolves?" But the rest of the film she's shown to be embarrassingly inept at everything she tries (like how she throws the snowball at the giant snowman against Kristoff's advice and angers it, jumps too soon when Kristoff makes the snow anchor, can't climb three feet on a cliff and needs to be told "there's stairs over there," etc), proving that girls need boys for everything outside the home.

That's part of why I dislike Kristoff.

^You dislike Kristoff because he's helpful? Ok...

He's kinda meh but I still like him. I just don't find him that interesting.

He is cute, sweet, and lovable. Unfortunately, he needs more character developed soooo badly! He is said that rough, I don't find him being rough. He is said that he is antisocial, okay, he is. But not too obvious. He loves to talk as Sven. We only see him doing that twice in the movie!

Disneyfan, I think part of the reason why me and Tygers_Eye don't like him is because narratively to the story they where trying to tell, Kristoff is completely unneeded. In the end Frozen is really a story about sisterhood and how no matter how bad life gets and how alone you feel there will always be people there that love you, especially your family.

Do I think they failed ultimately in their message? Absolutely, and one of the most persisting reasons of this is the character of Kristoff. Like Tygers said, in the original tale Gerda searched for years for her friend, getting help along the way, but ultimately getting there herself through perseverance and smarts. From what we see of Anna, without Kristoff she would have wandered around in the snow for about three days, fell into a lake completely wetting her new clothes and then died on the fourth of hypothermia. The girl is characterized as one of the most well meaning, but idiotic characters Disney has ever produced. And she shouldn't be, considering the message is family will always be there for you. Anna wouldn't get to ever be there without Kristoff or Olaf.

Really the only actually narrative use that Kristoff has is that he saw what the trolls did to Anna and was able to bring her to them. You know who else can do that? Freaking Elsa! Imagine if Kristoff didn't exist and Anna still needed to see the trolls. Elsa would be forced to take her, and guess what, we might actually see them develop a real sisterly bond on the way. Not a facetious one based on chocolate and one sided effort, but one where both Anna and Elsa have to help each other in order to make it through this.

As a result Kristoff is completely useless when it comes to the story they where telling, and he detracts from the characters around him. He also is annoying with his higher than thou attitude of how Anna was an idiot for marrying a man she just met. Something facetious for Disney to spout for the Neo-feminists while selling overpriced Cinderella costumes on the side. But that's just me nitpicking.

Quite annoying. And I actually don't care.

Probably my favourite Frozen character.

GUYS!!! Disney just released info on their 53rd animated movie! They are going to call it Frozen. Contrary to many previous beliefs it is call Frozen, not The Snow Queen. I know, it's crazy!! The only person named Gerda in the film is a servant. So, when Anna goes out to find her sister, she doesn't need to do it all by herself. Gerda might have searched for years trying to find her friend, but that was in the Snow Queen, Not Frozen. Am I mistaken in thinking that an adaptation does not need to be the exact same as the original story? That would get pretty boring.
Maybe Anna never would have found Elsa by herself, but she would have looked for her until she died.

So imagine if Elsa would have taken Anna to see the trolls because Kristoff didn't exist, as OnceABlueMoon suggests. This is how that story would unravel, IMO. Elsa would freeze Anna's heart and they would be like, "oh no!" "I'm going to die!"-Anna "I'm so sorry!! But don't worry, I know where to go!"-Elsa. This is all assuming that Elsa could keep her cool in the situation. We all know how much that would have scared her and we all know what happens when she gets scared. Anyway, then they would need to go back to the castle, to find the book, to find out where the trolls were. They might meet up with Hans on the way back, and that would add conflict that has no see-able solution.. Conflict would arise. Anna might die before they can get back to the castle, then go to the trolls and then back to the castle to find Hans for true loves kiss.
So let's just assume that Elsa knew where the trolls were. She would take Anna there and they might talk about all the years that they were apart and what happened before Anna got struck the first time. Great bonding yada yada yada. Then they get to the trolls. Grand Pabbie would say, "Only an act of true love can thaw a frozen heart." Then Anna and Elsa would run back to the castle to try and get to Hans. They would reach the castle, but Hans might not be there because he went out searching for Anna and Elsa. What happens then? Anna dies.
Let's assume that either Hans never went out searching, or he doesn't find her and comes back in time. Then what happens? Anna kisses Hans and what? Does it work? If it does it subtracts from the true love between sisters message. If it doesn't work then how will they fix her? Will Elsa say I love you and poof everything is better? Will Hans turn out and be evil anyway and Anna will sacrifice again? There are too many questions. Kristoff is vital to the plot and narrative of Frozen. He doesn't take anything away from the message. You can still love your sister with all you heart and have a relationship too.

Also, I have no idea what this means, "Something facetious for Disney to spout for the Neo-feminists while selling overpriced Cinderella costumes on the side. But that's just me nitpicking."

^ Disneyfan: No, I don't dislike Kristoff because he's helpful. I dislike him because he's a half-baked, half-formed character who's "personality" is just a series of snarky one-liners. His past is barely formed and his motivation is poorly explained.

He goes through the motions of what the modern Disney Princess love interest is supposed to be: jaded and snarky but lose his edge when he falls for the heroine after a day and a half, get the heroine from Point A to Point B because she can't do it on her own, and appeal to boys in the audience because they won't suffer a film that doesn't mostly pander to them. He goes through the motions, but I don't feel he's a developed, believable, compelling, or even likable character.

I initially agreed with you that Kristoff is needed plot-wise and narrative-wise since Anna, as you said, "would have frozen on top of the mountain." (Actually, I don't think she would have gotten that far.) However, I added that I feel his involvement is based on the closet-sexist idea that girls NEED guys. Both in-story as Anna needs Kristoff to get her every two feet of her journey, and meta-wise since boys/men won't suffer a work of fiction doesn't pander mostly to them, even though girls have been conditioned to do so for them for centuries, so in Kristoff goes!

I acknowledged that he is needed for the plot, but the reason he is needed is a reason I find to be insulting and closet-sexist.

OnceABlueMoon: You make a lot of excellent points, and I almost completely agree. I'll somewhat disagree in that I think Kristoff is indeed "needed" for the narrative, but it is based on the faulty reasons I listed above. The narrative pays lip service to the importance of sisterly love and the bonds of family, but still spends most of the film enforcing female dependence on men and celebrating traditional romantic love.

I'm just a little confused, tygers. Everything you say is against Anna, not Kristoff. If anything you should dislike Anna. What I'm getting from you is that you dislike Kristoff because Anna is so "incompetent" that Kristoff is needed help her along. You dislike Kristoff because without him she would die. It doesn't make much sense. It's like saying you hate the surgeon because without him the main character would die because she doesn't know how to perform an operation to save herself. How can you expect Anna to be a great wilderness explorer when she's been outside the castle before. I just don't see what this has to do Kristoff

If Kristoff was actually Kristina, a rough and tough expert mountain woman, you would have no problem with him. It's just because he's a guy you don't like him

AMEN to what OnceABlueMoon and Tygers_Eye said

Even though I love him, I agree he is unneeded.

I don't see how he was unneeded! It makes no sense. Without him Anna dies. Without him Anna doesn't make it to the trolls or to Elsa. Anna wouldn't go outside to sacrifice for Elsa because she was headed to Kristoff. It makes zero sense to me. Stop comparing it to the snow queen. they are different stories.

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Disneyfan, we are talking about stories here. The characters are built for the world they will encounter and the story they need to tell. With Kristoff there, he can do most of the brunt work, allowing Anna to do next to nothing. Without Kristoff there, in order to complete the story Anna would have to be a more competent character and get up the mountain by herself. And this is the Anna I would have liked to seen.

Also in a parallel universe of Frozen where Kristoff did not exist, it is very likely that Hans would have stayed the good guy he appeared to be. There would have been no second man, so narratively he would have been Anna's romantic partner. There would have been no need for Hans to turn evil and as a result when he kissed Anna, who knows, maybe he would have loved her enough for it to work. Or maybe, if we're going from the assumption that the act of true love must be your own, when the kiss did not work, Hans would become convinced that only by killing Elsa can he save Anna. And Anna does the same exact thing, risks her life to save her sister, but from the man she likes/loves. There are many ways that the story could have worked out, and without Kristof a lot of the bad writing and rushed character development doesn't even need to occur. This is what I mean when I say Kristof is unneeded because no matter how I look at it, without him, the movie always improves.

^ What ever way I look at it a story without Kristoff is not an improvement. How lonely would it have been, if she had gone alone? How would she have found the trolls? Without Kristoff it's boring. It doesn't make sense. Kristoff is a needed character. Kristoff doesn't do all the work for Anna. He helps her out because she doen't know anything about the mountains because she has never been there!! If Kristoff did all the brunt work he would have punched the shit out of Hans. Did he? No. That was Anna

In a parallel Frozen universe Kristoff has the ice powers. He is the most important character. Do you see how stupid it is to talk about parallel universes?

^There are other characters they could have included besides Kristoff. Heck, the original short story had several characters that Gerda encountered on her journey that the movie could have drawn inspiration from.

The Enchantress that wanted to keep her as her daughter. The two crows that heard Kai's description and led her into a palace since they thought the prince who lived there was Kai. The Prince and Princess who lived in said palace, took pity on Gerda, and helped her on her journey by giving her a golden carriage. (The Princess in particular was awesome because she had sworn only to marry a man as clever as she, and married her now-husband, who used to be a commoner, because he alone passed her test.) The Finn and Lappish women who help Gerda one last time before she reached the Snow Queen's palace.

The Robber Girl that initially robbed Gerda and kept her as a kind of pet, but then grew to genuinely care about her and became the most helpful as she had the reindeer and doves that knew where the Snow Queen's palace was, and then she gave Gerda back her stuff and provided the reindeer that got Gerda most of the way to the Snow Queen's palace. Heck, the filmmakers admitted that Kristoff's character was based partly on the Robber Girl, because he's a cynic that gives her warm clothes and provides the reindeer and helps guide her to the ice palace.

In fact, imagine if they had the Robber Girl-like character who helped Anna on her journey! A tough, cynical, hardass young woman in rags who scorns concepts of love and friendship, but reluctantly helps Anna, and then slowly lets down her defenses the two become best friends over the narrative. They could be great foils of each other! Sweet, naive, quirky, awkward, trusting Anna, versus the more mean, jaded, snarky, savvy, cynical, mistrusting Robber Girl. They could start off snarking at each other over their differences, with Anna wanting to be her friend but the Robber Girl initially scorning friendship but reluctantly helping her to the mountain (like Flynn to Rapunzel and Kristoff to Anna, because she initially thinks she'll get something else out of it) but then becoming more caring about her over the plot, then ultimately puts Anna's well-being before her own and becomes her best friend. (Like showing concern over Elsa freezing her heart, saving her from Marshmallow, maybe taking her to the Trolls - or whoever - to help cure her frozen heart, becoming frantic to get her back to the palace to save her life when Anna's condition becomes fatal - even though she herself doesn't believe in "true love's kiss," gets shooed away by the servants, then rushes back to the kingdom when she sees the storm's brewing because she wants to help her friend.)

Oh God, now I've made myself depressed. I love the side characters in "The Snow Queen," and I would have loved to have seen them in the movie. But I know they wouldn't have made it into the movie. Why? Because they're mostly female.

Disney is in their "pandering primarily to boys" phase. In every modern CGI princess movie, they make up for having two named female primary characters by making sure the rest of the characters are male.

Same with Frozen. Most characters in the short story were women (and positive women at that!), but we can't have that for Frozen. We've got a female protagonist and deuteragomist, so we've got to balance that out by making sure every single other speaking character in the movie is male (sans their mother, who gets, like, one line). (Hans, Kristoff, Olaf, Father, Sven, most Trolls, Duke of Weaseltown, random butlers, etc).

God forbid Anna go on her journey alone, aided by many interesting (female) characters she encounters on her journey, or aided by at least one fellow woman. NOPE! She needs the male Kristoff, Sven, Olaf, and Oaken, because including one female character to go with her on her journey would have just saturated the film in too much estrogen, and undermined the "romantic love is not the only type of love" message they undermine by making Anna's primary relationship and interaction time be with her future romantic partner.

^ Words are flying out of my mouth, hitting the computer screen, being typed and then being deleted because I want to be nice. Maybe you didn't read my earlier post, the title of this movie is FROZEN. They did not title the movie The Snow Queen. They titled it Frozen. Here's a quote from the Disney Frozen Wikia, "It is loosely inspired by Hans Christian Andersen's fairy tale The Snow Queen." Can you guess the key word? LOOSELY. Loosely based. Let me give you another quote from my earlier comment, "If Kristoff was actually Kristina, a rough and tough expert mountain woman, you would have no problem with him. It's just because he's a guy you don't like him" This is so true. You hate Kristoff because he is a man. There's only a couple girls and there's many males. Boo hoo. Does that take away from Kristoff's character? Half of the people you mentioned that were in the original story were bad guys. Should Anna just go throughout Arendelle finding every bad person that ever lived? Do you know how long that would take? It would be like the Odyssey. A giant long journey full of conflict that never gets anywhere.

I can argue that Oaken didn't help her out, he just happened to own the establishment she went to. Did Gerda ever go to a store like that?? They are two different stories!!

^ It really bothers you that I don't agree with you, doesn't it?

I don't like Kristoff. I don't like him as a character, I don't like what he does for the story, and I don't like the reason they placed him where they did in the story instead of some other character who I think could have served it much better.

I also don't like Frozen. Okay? Did you know they started off making this movie a traditionally animated adaptation of "The Snow Queen," which I was greatly looking forward to, but then they scrapped it when The Princess and the Frog did okay-but-not-great at the box office? Then they re-cobbled it as a snarky CGI slapstick road-trip movie when Tangled did great at the box office? Then they just kept taking more and more liberties with the plot until it was "The Snow Queen" in name only, and then they changed it to Frozen to take even that away?

I would have liked it better as a more faithful adaptation of "The Snow Queen." I would have liked it better if Disney didn't talk out of both sides of their mouth by spouting sisterly love but still enforcing traditional heteronormative romantic love. I would have liked it better if they included a male love interest who had more development, personality, and likable (to me) qualities than what we got with Kristoff. I would have liked it better if they included more female supporting characters like in the original short story to showcase their supposed support of non-romantic female relationships instead of making every single character not one of the main sisters (who BARELY interact) dudes to enforce the Smurfette Principle.

I would have liked it better. It's that simple. You don't agree? That's fine.

He's one of my favoutire Disney Prince. :)

^^ Wow. let it all out. I just find the reasoning that you don't like Kristoff a little well.... you fill in the blank. I think you are over analyzing the movie and are finding ways to dislike Frozen because it's not true like The Snow Queen. Did you know that they tried to make a true adaptation of The Snow Queen three different times at Disney? They tried in the 1940's, in 1952, and in the 1990's. It got scrapped every time because they had problems connecting the Snow Queen character to the audiences. They saw great potential in the movie, but they couldn't make it work. Maybe The Snow Queen is a great story, but just doesn't work as a movie. Did you think of that? Just because Frozen is not directly adapted from The Snow Queen does not make it a bad movie.
Also, Disney wasn't harping on non-romantic female relationships, but the love and bond between sisters. Not just females

Disneyfan: What is your problem? You keep singling out my posts to argue and tell me I'm wrong over every little thing (even when I'm just sharing a viewpoint) and frankly, it's getting on my nerves.

You also keep acting like your opinion is Objective Fact and keep trying to correct people with the Wrong Opinion by trying to get them to see it your way in everything, which is getting obnoxious.

This is a poll to express opinions. Avatar_tla_fan didn't ask why people like Kristoff, she asked what people think of Kristoff. I said what I think of Kristoff. OnceABlueMoon said what she thought of Kristoff. I told her I agree in every way but one (that he's useless to the plot, which I admit I think he is but not for a reason I like), then you took it upon yourself to try to change our minds and make us see it your way.

You love Kristoff? GOOD FOR YOU. You like what he does for the story? GOOD FOR YOU. You like the story? GOOD FOR YOU.

I don't. Quit trying to change my mind because it's not going to work. Quit trying to force me to see it your way because it's not going to work. Quit trying to shame me into adopting your preferences by invalidating mine because I don't feel invalidated and it doesn't work.

P.S. Just in case you thought I didn't read your post:

"Did you know that they tried to make a true adaptation of The Snow Queen three different times at Disney? They tried in the 1940's, in 1952, and in the 1990's. It got scrapped every time because they had problems connecting the Snow Queen character to the audiences."

I do know, and I think trying to connect the Snow Queen to the audiences is where they went wrong. She's not supposed to be a relatable main character, she's a "beautiful, powerful, dangerous, cold" anti-villainess that acts as a catalyst for the plot and antagonist of Gerda, in that she takes Kai away and keeps Gerda from reaching him with her snow. Maybe if they'd focused on the actual main characters and story instead of trying to fit this diamond character into a square peg, they could have come up with a more faithful film adaptation sooner.

"Maybe The Snow Queen is a great story, but just doesn't work as a movie."

Says you. The Soviet Union made what I think is a very good and faithful film version in the 1950's.

"Also, Disney wasn't harping on non-romantic female relationships, but the love and bond between sisters. Not just females."

Unless it's incestuous, the "bond between sisters" counts as a non-romantic female relationship.

I just have a neutral opinion of him. I don't dislike him, but I definitely don't like him either.

^^ So now all of a sudden it's wrong to share my opinion? I would call the love between two sisters, a family relationship, not non-romantic female relationship. I'm not singling you out. We are having a conversation. Now it's turned into a heated conversation, maybe an argument, but I'm not doing this to you because I dislike you. I like you, actually. You might have seen, but I also talked with OnceABlueMoon. This has nothing to do with you. I think we both need to calm down, and relax a little bit. Disney doesn't have to make a 1 to 1 copy of The Snow Queen to make a good adaptation. I think Frozen is an overall better story with a better message than The Snow Queen. You obviously don't, and I respect your opinion.
I also wouldn't say that I'm forcing you into any opinion. I'm just showing you what I believe about Kristoff and Frozen.

i like him but at times he reminds me of Shang why because they are both rather serious and grumpy but can be rather awkward but with Shang its fits his personaitlyplus i love his first encounter with Mulan so much more than Anna meeting Kristoff atleast with Shang its justified i mean he is the Captain of the Imperial amry so he needs to be serious because there is war going on plus when he sees Mulan after the war i was laughing at how awkward he was infont of mulan and Fa Zhou when he came to return the helmet but with Kristoff i like him but he's a bit of a jerk though i liked how he went back for Anna when Hans betrayed her