@TLH, Huddyfantatic, HLforever, Anon, Rrennie: I really want to thank all of you for your kind words, regarding my silly experience... I do feel like i am at home here, it feels safe and warm and it's all because of you lovely people.

@Rrennie: it's very hard to tell. The scenes with the other actors "playing" House's case are very confusing for me.

When the guy they believe to be a junkie comes up, i cannot really make that much out of him, you know? But i assume that it was House's housian behavior that pushed them to mis-interpret his behavior as drug-seeking: he came in in a lot of pain and very certain that everyone around him was an idiot; he demanded exactly what drug he wanted, happened to be a powerful analgezic/narcotic; he shot himself with it instantly, which we can explain as a typically housian reaction to pain and frustration, but they apparently explained it as addiction.

It was just my feeling, that's why i said that is the version i "believe". No proof for either of them, really. We don't know if he was taking any drugs before the leg (why would he? wasn't he supposed to have a relatively normal and happy life with Stacy?), and in the short period of time since his accident, till he got to PPTH, just how many drugs could he have taken, that would turn him into a drug seeking addict in a matter of what? Hours, days? (I am not sure if they mention how much time it passes between the actual accident and the time he goes into the ER.)

I am definitely re-watching "Three Stories" tonight!

RRennie, on a different topic: i had read about your daughter and the baby that is on its way, and your dreamy husband:) Congratulations, my dear, God bless all 4 of you! I wish you and your babies all the best!

@Rrennie: i am glad it makes sense. It's always been just a gut feeling, i really don't think there is actual proof for either theories.
But i can only imagine how House went wild on all those poor ER doctors and it makes sense to me. The irony of its ultimate consequence also "feels" housian. If they hadn't dismissed him as a junkie, his leg could still have been saved, there was still time before too much of the muscle dies. After that, it was too late and he ended up being a drug addict, seeking for his fix in any way he could get his hands on it... Ironic and very, very sad.

It's always been my impression that House is pretty understanding of addicts of all sorts... Which also makes sense.

Happy we could help the well-being of your marriage:) I have to confess, my son and my husband are pretty frustrated at all the time i spend obsessing about "House"... But i keep telling them that it helps mommy keep her sanity and good humor, however insane that sounds...

PS: my husband has a very cute, half desperate, half resigned look on his face as we speak. I just announced him i am starting another two weeks "House" marathon, re-watching old episodes during the hiatus. The thing is, we watch together every evening, after our son falls asleep (a movie or another series, but mostly "House":))), and the poor man has seen each and every episode of "House" at least 5 times!!!!!! Heck, he has seen my top favorite episodes at least 10 times, and counting:))))))

Good thing my parents are fans too cause i would really got a problem.Late at night when i sit and watch House episodes in a row sometimes my father stops by and we watch it together.My boyfriend of course is an other story.He doesn't have a problem with the show but since he haven't watch every episode he doesn't understand me completely.I think i have to educate hιm soon...

@ ren "We are blessed beyond belief. And one of my blessings, dramatic as this sounds, is finding all of you......" cough, ahem...cough...cough um one time when praying I actually included you all in my things I was saying thank you for....Kind of reminds me of listening to little kids pray "thank you for mom, and dad, and my puppy, and the sky, and my kitten, and my bed...

LOL thanks

@Delia, thanks so much for your insight on House, I missed your posts.

Also, I love hearing (or reading I should say) all of your personal stories about how and when you watch House and how your 'families' react! it makes you feel more real to me, if that makes any sense. There's actually someone I'm communicating with, not just answers that magically appear when I turn on my computer!

@DeliaB - I didn't know you were in trouble because it's a bit of time since I read Barbara's blog (to avoid spoilers). OMG! Now I'm afraid to be torn if I go back there XD XD XD
But if you need help let me know and I will go there in a flash with a tool that could be useful....
(WOW girls!!!!!!!! what are you thinking about it??????? It's a baseball bat NOT a 17 inchs!!!)

@Rrennie: We watch two episodes a night too:))) Sometimes, my husband falls asleep and i continue with a third and a fourth, and then play the price the next morning, when i'm too tired to handle my son's energy:)))))

@Anon: Thank you, dearest:)
And don't worry: we are all as real as it gets. Real people with real lives and a very, very real obsession:)

@Fran: You're a darling. Thank you very much. I wished i had a bat at some points during the past few days, but i managed to work my way through it with nothing but words:)
There aren't any spoilers on Barbara's, usually, so don't worry about that.
On my little situation: what can i say?... It was my fault too, on some level. My enthusiasm for Huddy and "House" makes me lose track of myself and perhaps i have been excessive in my approach.
Anyway, people can be very mean, it's a lesson i have to learn at some point.

Don't be afraid to write your comments there. They are very insightful, and i don't think you're in any danger:) I, too, will keep writing comments there, but i will most certainly try to tone it down:) I cannot keep fighting extensive battles to defend my point of view.

@DeliaB - Stay here and relax :-))
I'm not afraid to go back to Barbara's blog,I was kidding, I'll come back after the next episode. By the way ... November 8 is a life!

@fran---I actually read your comment as "Be not afraid!!!"

@mysusp - a great read and funny too!!! XD XD XD
Are you comparing @DeliaB / Wilson?? Poor @DeliaB....she should be forced to play a....well..."red light" movie XD XD XD

@deliaB - Forgive me! :-)))

Through your thoughts on Lydia I was asked to go back in time and to focus on why House is so important to me. My addiction started from the third season and coincided with a very special bad period of my life, I was in a time when much of what I had built was crumbling on me and I was also beginning to deal emotionally and to prepare in some way to the impending loss of my parents. I was totally immersed in a perpetual feeling of grief which covered several areas (I don't know how else to define it in a language that is not mine) of my life and that feeling seriously undermined my identity, or rather, the feature that for me is essential in the definition of my (any) identity: the 'feeling' ability, to feel emotions, to laugh, to cry, to trust others, to relate, to let me go. The pain that I was trying to hide from those who loved me, and still love me, to avoid hurting them was putting me in danger of emotionally anesthetized myself.
House at that time was an anchor, a lifeboat, a blessing, a great gift because it was a 'private moment' that allowed me to return back in touch with my emotions and to express them: tears and laughters, tenderness and melancholy, questions and answers, suffering and hope, friendship and resentment, anger, love, sharing, the representation of the evil of life (that is what binds us). House has greatly contributed to my emotional rebirth and this is why "House is the most incredible series I've ever known and it's always gonna be the most incredible series I have ever known".

Probably for this reason I loved Lydia so much, because she was for him what House was for me.

Edit - ooppsss...sorry, I think I've written on the wrong thread

@Fran - At a loss for words.

Probably for this reason I loved Lydia so much, because she was for him what House was for me.

@Fran: Screw the euphemisms, my dear. I am willing to be an actress in a really porny porn movie (and i mean, really porny!!!!) - with one condition. That i get to choose my male costar from the "House" cast. Who would i pick, i wonder?...

"My addiction started from the third season and coincided with a very special bad period of my life, I was in a time when much of what I had built was crumbling on me and I was also beginning to deal emotionally and to prepare in some way to the impending loss of my parents. I was totally immersed in a perpetual feeling of grief which covered several areas (I don't know how else to define it in a language that is not mine) of my life and that feeling seriously undermined my identity, or rather, the feature that for me is essential in the definition of my (any) identity: the 'feeling' ability, to feel emotions, to laugh, to cry, to trust others, to relate, to let me go. The pain that I was trying to hide from those who loved me, and still love me, to avoid hurting them was putting me in danger of emotionally anesthetized myself."

You brought tears to my eyes. I understand you so well.
My addiction with "House" started two years ago. I was coming out of a year in which my life was "crumbling down" on me like i never imagined. My son had been sick for the whole first year of his life and, without boring anyone with details, i had spent that year drained, "totally immersed in a perpetual feeling of grief", and also fear, panic, irrational guilt, dread and confusion.

I had fully lost my identity, i didn't know that i was anything but the terrified and desperate mother of an infant whose health was in perpetual danger.

During my year of horrific nights, watching my sick baby who could not sleep, i would catch glimpses of "House" episodes on Romanian television and i would change the chanel so fast, my hand would hurt. I could not bear to see hospitals, doctors, sick people and dangerous situations on television. I had enough of that in my real life.

And then, after my son turned 1 year old and he started to get better, i was in search of who i was. I was obviously no longer the woman i was before his birth. I could barely remember that woman, what she liked, what she thought, what she did for fun... And i discovered "House". I remembered it from my nightmarish nights, but my fear had subsided enough to allow me to watch. I became hooked in a matter of weeks and "House" became the number one element by which i defined my new self. Apart from being a (now happy) mother, i was also this woman who adored "House". That was the beginning of my new self and my new life. "House" taught me that i can still enjoy myself. It taught me that i can still think and analyze things. It taught me that i can still fall in love.

"House at that time was an anchor, a lifeboat, a blessing, a great gift."
I feel exactly the same way.

And now i understand why you love Lydia so much. At that time, i was too jealous and hurt by the Huddy mess to FEEL it like this. I understood, rationally, what her role in his life was, but i didn't "feel" it, because i had too much anger and jealousy and Huddy-fear in my heart. Now i think i can feel it, at last. Funny, it would have been a very personal reference for me too.

Thank you for sharing.

just passing by to remind you that PCA voting ends TOMORROW NIGHT - and not on Nov 6 as we thought! link

let´s do a task force and vote like crazy!! LisaE and House deserves this!! c´mon.. we can do this!!

LMAO! you two are awesome! :D

@Fran. I finally read your post. this is so intense, I don't even know what to say. As @rrennie said, good for you for finding this show, I hope you enjoy as much now but for happier reasons...

just over a WEEK left before the next episode! I speak for myself here but that wasn't so bad, time flew by for me.

@tammy - I was not going to make you be quiet, I like it when you talk :-)))

@rennie @anon - you are sweet, and yes...I'm actually enjoying the show for happier reasons! :-))

@DeliaB - I'm really glad you're out of the tunnel holding the hand of your son (the children are the most important gift).
The House's magic is that this show has brought together different people for different reasons, people that have been haunted by his strength and communicative power.


BTW I started reading The Official Guide to House (actually only the foreword by HL) and I find that this man has a gift with words, he has the ability to express profound thoughts in simple words. A genius.

Let's see what HL thinks about House (nobody knows him better than Hugh!!!).
HL: "I think House is enourmously funny. I become vexed when people describe him as grumpy or sour or a jerk because I feel those people are missing the good bits of both the show and the character."......"For House, the atheist, I believe the joke is actually rather sacred. It is the defining of his humanity".

The following statement makes me think about an overlap HL/House (in HL's head and therefore also in ours - and inevitably this leads me to think even an overlap between Huddy and Huli....I can't help it! :-) ), because in some way they increasingly resemble:
HL: "I find House playful, quick-witted, and thoroughly good company. I like spending time with him".

Isn't it great?

"BTW I started reading The Official Guide to House (actually only the foreword by HL) and I find that this man has a gift with words, he has the ability to express profound thoughts in simple words. A genius"

I have read that too. Thanks to @anon who scanned the pages for me and I totally agree with you. The way he talks about House as a character, the things he says, the way he arranges words itself has something unique. I found myself smiling while reading, thinkin this man is so sensible and smart, so insighful and sweet in the things he says....so amazing, one can't help but loving him.

Just this morning I happened to find this interview Lisa gave a few years ago. And the things she says about Hugh really almost brought tears to my eyes. She can't restrain herself. Totally. Also very cute when she talks about Chameron and she says she has found herself a little bit jealous sometimes, as if she felt really like Cuddy. She is kidding of course, but I truly think she is some hard-core Huddy fan, although this remembered me of that Kristin's interview in which she says her character ended up killing Stacy when asked about the Hacy storyline.

Since 1:26

@bea "And the things she says about Hugh really almost brought tears to my eyes"
And to mine too. That passion and that spontaneity.....where did they go? I don't wanna know (sad song)

@Fran!!! That song now stuck into my head XD XD XD Why have you done that???? Now I can't stop hearing it XD Teamwork right? God...sad times =( My poor beloved House!!! Muahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

@rrennie, you're terrible!

lol xDD @Rennie, great idea ;DD
I have no idea what kind of reaction Hugh&Lisa might have if they'd hear this xD

@Rennie, xD sounds like new idea for fanfic

I have been OBSESSED with this very sexy song. link

Suitable for the LAST TANGO IN PRINCETON, do you guys think?...

Vaya Con Dios, "What will come of this":

"And faster we will go,
And further we will go,
And deeper we will go,
Whatever comes of this.

I love him more and more
I want him more and more
It can't be like before
And what will come of this..."

I was just waiting for it considering it has happened at least 6 different times. Now that they're actually together i can't wat to see what happens later.

@rrennie, don't get our hopes up!

keep voting peeps!

@Bea Ahh that interview was so cute and a little sad at the same time...I agree with @rrennie, the "drugs" part made me laugh (just another reminder of how amazing Lisa is), and she did look sad after her uncontrolled outburst of all the things she loves about Hugh (reminded me of the Chelsea Lately interview).

I noticed something interesting, though. It was touching when Lisa said that Hugh is the type of man who will cry when you tell him something deeply personal about yourself, but don't we know that Hugh didn't even cry when his mother died? And Lisa only knows this from her OWN experience. She doesn't know if he tears up when OTHER people tell him their secrets. I just found it interesting (read: HULI) that Hugh would cry when Lisa shared something personal with him, but wouldn't when his own mother died. I know that the circumstances were very different, as he never had a great relationship with his mom, but it certainly shows how important Lisa is to him.

"he never had a great relationship with his mom"

It was worse than just 'bad relationships'. She made him think that would never live up her hopes on him. His diffidence is mostly her fault. I read somewhere that he said that he was just said, when she died. Do you realize how bad everything should be not to cry when your mom's dead?
But you made a great point about that Lisa could know about that he would cry about some touching story only from her own experience, hence she told him something really important about herself. What's confirming HuLi theory even more. She trusts him enough to tell stories like this.

Yes, sometimes I forget how hard Hugh's childhood really was, and how that has shaped him as a person. But I think that makes how much Lisa has changed him that much more amazing, because I do believe that a good majority of the changes we have been seeing were caused by her. Hugh has always had a terribly low self-esteem, but now there's a new air of confidence about him that is just wonderful to see. When I watched interviews before, especially the Inside the Actor's Studio one, where Hugh really opened up, I was moved by the hardships that he had been through, and mainly wanted to comfort him in some way. This is part of what makes Huli beautiful: in some ways, it has healed him.

So, somehow, we be thankful to his mother that he made him like this. 'Cause I think, his feeling that he can do more than he did, made him who he is now. It's very hard doing something and knowing that 98% possibility you'll be blamed for doing it wrong. And even if your own mother do not support you, it's making things even worse.
But that fact that Lisa changed him... It is truly amazing (my romantic side taking over, somebody help me). I remember Hugh saying that all his life was in depression. Sometimes less, sometimes more. But it always was there. Now he's different. I don't want to bring this topic up, but I don't think Jo ever had this kind of affect on him.
Even if they won't announce anything soon, that fact that he'd changed (he is shinning, for crying out loud) is already serious.

"It is truly amazing (my romantic side taking over, somebody help me)."

Hahah well I'm definitely not the one to go to for that...when it comes to Huli I'm a hopeless romantic. I'll just drag you down further xD

I think his previous marriage was "comfortable", but not enough to really hoist him out of the ditch of depression. What he has with Lisa though...as Tammy likes to say, it's what happens when a tornado meets a volcano: it can be painful sometimes, but passionate, breathtaking and beautiful. I wouldn't say that it is one-of-a-kind, but it most certainly is something very special.

What's this? Huli side took over and we are discussing Huli on the Huddy spot??? XD Are you nuts? *goes hiding*

You know @HLforver, you made me remember about on of memorable Paley's line

"Lisa and I...we have a tremendous...we had such a good time....we have laughed....have cried?

"Yeah we have cried" ;)

I always wonder what he was about to say when he said that "tremendous" 'cause he stopped mid-sentence and changed his phrasing....chemistry perhaps? :P

Aaaaaa... OK. I am apparently the only moron who knows nothing about His Lordship's childhood, mother etc.

Could you lovely ladies point me towards the sources of this information? As in... everything about it?:))))))) I am HUGELY interested in the childhood/mother thing.

No idea @Delia! Can't help in that. Maybe you should ask on the Huli thread. I bet someone like @Satine or @HouseMindFreak can tell you something and give you articles and stuff.

@Db - As always our Bea has her pulse on the heart of it. HMF has amazing articles about it and I think she has the interview that Hugh discussed it also.
That is what makes Lisa's love so significant. It is the most unconditional thing he has ever known. He has always felt like he came up short with the women in his life.
Warning: It will only make you more protective of him.

@Delia Well I know for sure that he talks about his childhood in the Inside the Actor's Studio interview (Part 1 down below). I think he talks about never having cried for his mother after her death in that interview.

Ah, and here's something from the Daily Mail (a tabloid, yes, but what it says sounds pretty much right):

"Laurie's relationship with his mother, Patricia, was much more complicated. The youngest of four children and the only boy, his siblings say he was the apple of his mother's eye - though Patricia struggled to show her son any affection.
'She would spend days, weeks, even months, nursing some grievance. I don't know if she was clinically depressed, but she certainly had mood swings. She used to get very angry with me. Actually, I think she found me a disappointment in many ways. She was contemptuous of the goal of happiness, of contentment, ease, comfort. She disliked even the word comfort. She had a hostility to softness. She'd say, "Don't be so wet".'
Laurie was 29 when his mother died of motor neurone disease, and has said that they never reached any kind of resolution. All this has presumably provided fertile ground for Laurie's therapist and helps to explain his need to make self-deprecating remarks - as well as his failsafe fall-back position of playing the fool."

If you want a complete, in-depth walk-through and analysis of Hugh's life, definitely read HMF's article if you haven't already: link. All things will become clear :)

Edit: If Part 1 of the interview doesn't have the part about his mother that I was talking about:

Part 2 - link
Part 3 - link
Part 4 - link

Wow, you're pretty informed too I see XD Amazing. I should watch that stuff too.

link - this one is also very interesting article.

Gee. Thank you so much, HLF. Really, that is impressive. I will wait until i have quiet time to get into that - it is really heavy stuff and it explains many things in a very unexpected and solid way.

Katia: thank you as well, my dear.

It does make me feel more protective of him. And more appreciative of Lisa. And Jo, for that matter, even though it seems that her struggles to help and support him were less successful.

And it definitely puts the Tavis Smiley interview in a whole new light. I find it hard to harbor even one ounce of healthy doubt about Huli now. I cannot imagine what else, except Lisa's influence, could have made such a difference in him. And that influence cannot be just that of a friend - only a very meaningful person in one's life can help a person with the kind of trauma that Hugh seems to have been carrying around his whole life.

Isn't it amazing and romantic beyond belief? Lisa seems to have done for Hugh what we hope Cuddy will do for House: give him unconditional love, acceptance and support that helps him heal and overcome the lack of the aforementioned things in his childhood.

Even though, lately, i have been considering the possibility that House won't really change or heal. It would be even more impressive and significant and touching and unique, if he was actually incapable of change and healing, and yet, Cuddy would still love him and stay with him, in their own, unusual, dysfunctional way.
After all, the Beauty and the Beast approach is something that was seen before in movies and all. The redemptive power of love is something i believe in, but sometimes, truth is, not even the most powerful love cannot undo past damage. To love and accept somebody who cannot become a better person - now that is truly unconditional and spectacular. I am thinking that maybe that's where the next two eps are pointing us towards.

Just read HMF's article on Hugh's psychology. That was stunning work.

I nearly fell off the chair when i read the part about how he ended up married to Jo. I had never found time or patience to look into it, but i had been thinking about confronting their wedding date against the birth date of their elder son - for weeks now. I had this distinct feeling that they must have gotten married because of an unplanned pregnancy. I didn't dare go as far as assuming that they only got married 6 months AFTER the child was born.
Boy, does this put things in perspective...

"Boy, does this put things in perspective..."

No comment.

@Delia As usual, beautiful words :) I agree wholeheartedly about Huddy: love definitely has some sort of healing power, but we can't assume that it'll completely change someone. I don't think that it's possible for House to become a different person, no matter how strong his feelings are for Cuddy. There are some things that can never be fixed. But, the strength of the Huddy relationship will truly shine through when they have to address these problems, which are deeper than things like the hooker/masseuse, and we see if Cuddy is able to accept House's darker aspects when she is forced to confront them. And, I believe (and hope) that she ultimately will. Cuddy is nothing if not a strong woman.

I have no idead what the current discussion is, I haven't caught up yet. but I read a fanfic today that took place after Help Me and in it it mentioned something I had not thought about (and no I feel stupid)
that maybe Hannah had to die in order for House to finally get with Cuddy. And that if House had the chance to give it back so that Hannah could live, would he??

what so you all think?

@Anon, give me link for that fanfic, please

link
I think it's this one. but I'm in love with everything this author wrote

Thnx *goes to read*

@anon I had to think for a bit before coming up with an answer, but IMO House would give Hanna another chance at life, even if it would mean that he and Cuddy could never be together. In the next ep, he is going to jeopardize his relationship with her in order to save a patient. I think that this shows that, if given the chance, House would change things.

Then again, I'm thinking in terms of the old House. The House who ultimately rejected Stacy because being miserable made him feel better about himself. Maybe if he had to make this decision AFTER Huddy happened, he would decide not to. Making the choice to go back to the way things used to be, the dark existence that he had before, might be too difficult after he has gotten a taste of the happiness that he feels with Cuddy.

Haha, well I pretty much just made arguments for both sides. I guess it's just that nothing's definite.

@HLF: i fully agree with your first comment:
"But, the strength of the Huddy relationship will truly shine through when they have to address these problems, which are deeper than things like the hooker/masseuse, and we see if Cuddy is able to accept House's darker aspects when she is forced to confront them."

I am in middle grounds here. I have enough background and experience as a psychologist to know that giving and receiving love is something that DOES change a person. For a person whose self-worth and identity are shaky, like House's are, being accepted more or less unconditionally is something that has a healing effect. In other words, a big part of me believes that some of House's issues will diminish, under the constant power of Cuddy's love and acceptance, and the power of his love for her. It's a whole process that is bound to have an effect on a person.

On the other hand, House's wounds are old and deep, and his psychological issues are deeply ingrained, to an extent that they are currently parts of his very identity and personality. So... what will change and what CANNOT change is a very complication equation.

In regard to your second comment: i believe that Wilson's interpretation of why House rejected Stacy is wrong (like many others of Wilson's interpretations...). I believe that the reason House sent Stacy away was that he knew that she wanted him to change, and he felt incapable of change, so the outcome of their relationship was clearly dark - a pain that he went through before and was unable to handle again.

I think this interpretation is backed by the story of the patient in "Need To Know", Margo, who did everything she could to keep her phony, but aparently functional marriage. House clearly said he cannot make those kind of efforts - "i am barely willing to put the toilet seat down after i pee".

Bottom line, just like Cameron, Stacy did not love him unconditionally. They both wanted to change him - which is something House cannot accept, because he KNOWS, with all his being, that what he needs is unconditional love and acceptance - the only type of human connections that give him a chance at healing his wounded self, a chance at living his humanity and at allowing himself some happiness and some meaning.

I also think that this interpretation is confirmed by the Huddy final discussion in "Now What". As he did with Stacy, House was terrified that Cuddy would only want him because she thought he could change. It is something that he CANNOT accept - even though, truth be told, he CAN change, as he proved in season 6 and so far in season 7. But he cannot accept it as a condition of the relationship.

Unlike Cameron, unlike Stacy, Cuddy made him believe that she doesn't want or expect him to change. I believe it too - which is why i am so in the middle on the whole "changing" subject.

Theoretically, unconditional love and acceptance have redemptive powers and they can help him become the best "him" that he can be - reach the ultimate level of healing possible, which might not be much, but still... However, if he doesn't change and she still loves him and stays with him, then their love proves to be truly unconditional - and that is something that simply transcends human limits and i would love to witness it.